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*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***

Senate Plans to Quietly Kill H. 3212!

Take Action Now!

May 22, 2008

The CWP Recognition bill - H. 3212 - is in grave danger of dying in the Senate! Your immediate action is critical to saving this important legislation!

GrassRoots GunRights just received inside information from members of the House and Senate that the Senate plans to let H. 3212 quietly die without taking any action on H. 3212. The Senate does NOT plan to go into a conference committee on H. 3212. But, it is possible for the Senate to by-pass the conference committee.

The Senate can vote to accept the House version of H. 3212 without going to conference committee. This can be done. But, it will only get done if YOU let your senator know how strongly you feel about being denied the right to carry and properly protect your family in other states.

If you want CWP recognition to pass so that you can carry in 30+ states, then it is critical YOU make PHONE CALLS (not just send emails) to the Senate immediately! We need to shut the Senate switchboard down! We need to do this EVERY DAY until the Senate adjourns on June 5.

*** Action Steps ***

  1. CALL every Senator from your county TODAY. Insist they PASS the House version of H. 3212 this session! Tell them you will be watching this bill closely and it will affect how you vote in November! "Tell them GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!"

  2. Call them again TOMORROW. CALL again every day until the House version of H. 3212 passes.

The Senate switchboard number is 803-212-6200. Individual telephone numbers and email addresses for each Senator are listed below.

Only YOUR repeated phone calls can save H. 3212. Thank you for your activism!

Bill Rentiers
Executive Officer

Abbeville County
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. William H. O'Dell

PTE@scsenate.org
WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6040
Aiken County
Sen. W. Greg Ryberg
Sen. A. Shane Massey
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler

SLC@scsenate.org
shanemassey@scsenate.org
NGS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6320
(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6140
Allendale County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto

CBH@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6140
Anderson County
Sen. Kevin L. Bryant
Sen. William H. O'Dell

BRYANTK@scsenate.org
WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6024
(803) 212-6040
Bamberg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.

CBH@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6140
(803) 212-6056
Barnwell County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto

CBH@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6140
Beaufort County
Sen. Catherine C. Ceips
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

CEIPS@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6056
Berkeley County
Sen. Paul G. Campbell, Jr.
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms

PaulCampbell@scsenate.org
CAMPSEN@scsenate.org
STR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6016
(803) 212-6016
(803) 212-6400
Calhoun County
Sen. John C. Land III

JCL@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6180
Charleston County
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. Robert Ford
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. Glenn F. McConnell
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney
Sen. Randy Scott

CAMPSEN@scsenate.org
CLEARYR@scsenate.org
RIF@scsenate.org
STR@scsenate.org
SJU@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org
SCOTTR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6016
(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6124
(803) 212-6400
(803) 212-6610
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6024
Cherokee County
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.

MED@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6430
Chester County
Sen. Linda H. Short

LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6148
Chesterfield County
Sen. Gerald Malloy
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

MALLOYG@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6148
(803) 212-6124
Clarendon County
Sen. John C. Land III

JCL@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6180
Colleton County
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

STR@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6400
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6056
Darlington County
Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr.
Sen. Gerald Malloy

SFI@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6640
(803) 212-6148
Dillon County
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Kent M. Williams

DE@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6008
Dorchester County
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Randy Scott

STR@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org
SCOTTR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6400
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6024
Edgefield County
Sen. A. Shane Massey

shanemassey@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6000
Fairfield County
Sen. Linda H. Short

LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6148
Florence County
Sen. John C. Land III
Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr.
Sen. J. Yancey McGill
Sen. Kent M. Williams

JCL@scsenate.org
SFI@scsenate.org
JYM@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6180
(803) 212-6640
(803) 212-6132
(803) 212-6008
Georgetown County
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. J. Yancey McGill

CLEARYR@scsenate.org
JYM@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6132
Greenville County
Sen. Ralph Anderson
Sen. Michael L. Fair
Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr.
Sen. David L. Thomas
Sen. Lewis R. Vaughn
Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III

RA@scsenate.org
FAIRM@scsenate.org
JHR@scsenate.org
SBI@scsenate.org
LRV@scsenate.org
SAG@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6108
(803) 212-6420
(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6240
(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6230
Greenwood County
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. William H. O'Dell

PTE@scsenate.org
WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6040
Hampton County
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

JWM@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6056
Horry County
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. J. Yancey McGill
Sen. Luke A. Rankin

CLEARYR@scsenate.org
DE@scsenate.org
JYM@scsenate.org
LR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6132
(803) 212-6132
Jasper County
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6056
Kershaw County
Sen. Joel Lourie
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

JBL@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6124
Lancaster County
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

SFG@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6330
(803) 212-6124
Laurens County
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III

PTE@scsenate.org
SAG@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6230
Lee County
Sen. Phil P. Leventis
Sen. Gerald Malloy

PL@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6148
Lexington County
Sen. John E. Courson
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer
Sen. John M. "Jake" Knotts, Jr.
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler

EDU@scsenate.org
CROMERR@scsenate.org
SIV@scsenate.org
NGS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6250
(803) 212-6040
(803) 212-6350
(803) 212-6140
Marion County
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Kent M. Williams

DE@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6008
Marlboro County
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Gerald Malloy
Sen. Kent M. Williams

DE@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6148
(803) 212-6008
McCormick County
Sen. A. Shane Massey

shanemassey@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6000
Newberry County
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer

CROMERR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6040
Oconee County
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander

SGE@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6220
Orangeburg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.

CBH@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6140
(803) 212-6056
Pickens County
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander
Sen. Larry A. Martin

SGE@scsenate.org
SRU@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6220
(803) 212-6340
Richland County
Sen. John E. Courson
Sen. Darrell Jackson
Sen. Joel Lourie
Sen. Kay Patterson

EDU@scsenate.org
DJ1@scsenate.org
JBL@scsenate.org
KAY@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6250
(803) 212-6048
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6048
Saluda County
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer
Sen. A. Shane Massey
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler

CROMERR@scsenate.org
shanemassey@scsenate.org
NGS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6040
(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6140
Spartanburg County
Sen. John D. Hawkins
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.
Sen. Glenn G. Reese
Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr.

DH@scsenate.org
MED@scsenate.org
GR@scsenate.org
JHR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6008
(803) 212-6430
(803) 212-6108
(803) 212-6032
Sumter County
Sen. John C. Land III
Sen. Phil P. Leventis

JCL@scsenate.org
PL@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6180
(803) 212-6000
Union County
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.
Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr.
Sen. Linda H. Short (Mrs. Paul)

MED@scsenate.org
JHR@scsenate.org
LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6430
(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6148
Williamsburg County
Sen. J. Yancey McGill

JYM@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6132
York County
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory
Sen. Robert W. Hayes, Jr.
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.
Sen. Linda H. Short

SFG@scsenate.org
set@scsenate.org
MED@scsenate.org
LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6330
(803) 212-6410
(803) 212-6430
(803) 212-6148

=====================================

*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***

Attention Concealed Weapon Permit (CWP) holders!

20 May 2008

It is crunch time for H. 3212, the concealed weapon permit (CWP) recognition/reciprocity bill that has been awaiting Senate action since March 26, 2008, when the House refused to concur with the Senate amendment just as GrassRoots GunRights asked them to refuse to do.

The Senate version of H. 3212 is completely unacceptable to gun owners. GrassRoots GunRights provided a detailed analysis of the Senate amendment to H. 3212 to every member of the House in a letter dated March 24, 2008. The GrassRoots analysis - which is repeated below - exposes exactly why the Senate amendment would make South Carolina CWP law worse than existing law. Interestingly, the Senate amendment would change the law so drastically that South Carolina could not even get reciprocity with itself! The Senate version of H. 3212 should be opposed by all pro gun rights supporters!

Multiple independent practicing pro gun rights attorneys have read the GrassRoots analysis of the Senate version of H. 3212, and all have agreed the GrassRoots analysis is legally sound (their letters of agreement can be found on the GrassRoots web site). Not a single independent practicing pro gun rights attorney has found fault with the GrassRoots analysis of H. 3212.

Read the rest of the story here.

*** ACTION STEPS: ***

  1. Email every senator who represents people from the county in which you live. Tell these politicians that "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on H. 3212!" The pro gun House is listening to GrassRoots GunRights, but the anti gun Senate is pushing a terrible bill. Politicians need to know GrassRoots GunRights speaks for gun owners in South Carolina, or else you will get the Senate version of H. 3212. Contact information is below.

  2. Call your senator and tell them "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on H. 3212!" Use the Senate switchboard (803) 212-6200, or use the individual office numbers listed below.

  3. Contact Sen. Knotts and let him know how you feel about his betrayal of gun owners. His email is SIV@scsenate.org and his office phone number is (803) 212-6350.

Abbeville County
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. William H. O'Dell

PTE@scsenate.org
WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6040
Aiken County
Sen. W. Greg Ryberg
Sen. A. Shane Massey
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler

SLC@scsenate.org
shanemassey@scsenate.org
NGS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6320
(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6140
Allendale County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto

CBH@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6140
Anderson County
Sen. Kevin L. Bryant
Sen. William H. O'Dell

BRYANTK@scsenate.org
WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6024
(803) 212-6040
Bamberg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.

CBH@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6140
(803) 212-6056
Barnwell County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto

CBH@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6140
Beaufort County
Sen. Catherine C. Ceips
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

CEIPS@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6056
Berkeley County
Sen. Paul G. Campbell, Jr.
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms

PaulCampbell@scsenate.org
CAMPSEN@scsenate.org
STR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6016
(803) 212-6016
(803) 212-6400
Calhoun County
Sen. John C. Land III

JCL@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6180
Charleston County
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. Robert Ford
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. Glenn F. McConnell
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney
Sen. Randy Scott

CAMPSEN@scsenate.org
CLEARYR@scsenate.org
RIF@scsenate.org
STR@scsenate.org
SJU@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org
SCOTTR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6016
(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6124
(803) 212-6400
(803) 212-6610
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6024
Cherokee County
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.

MED@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6430
Chester County
Sen. Linda H. Short

LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6148
Chesterfield County
Sen. Gerald Malloy
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

MALLOYG@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6148
(803) 212-6124
Clarendon County
Sen. John C. Land III

JCL@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6180
Colleton County
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

STR@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6400
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6056
Darlington County
Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr.
Sen. Gerald Malloy

SFI@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6640
(803) 212-6148
Dillon County
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Kent M. Williams

DE@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6008
Dorchester County
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Randy Scott

STR@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org
SCOTTR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6400
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6024
Edgefield County
Sen. A. Shane Massey

shanemassey@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6000
Fairfield County
Sen. Linda H. Short

LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6148
Florence County
Sen. John C. Land III
Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr.
Sen. J. Yancey McGill
Sen. Kent M. Williams

JCL@scsenate.org
SFI@scsenate.org
JYM@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6180
(803) 212-6640
(803) 212-6132
(803) 212-6008
Georgetown County
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. J. Yancey McGill

CLEARYR@scsenate.org
JYM@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6132
Greenville County
Sen. Ralph Anderson
Sen. Michael L. Fair
Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr.
Sen. David L. Thomas
Sen. Lewis R. Vaughn
Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III

RA@scsenate.org
FAIRM@scsenate.org
JHR@scsenate.org
SBI@scsenate.org
LRV@scsenate.org
SAG@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6108
(803) 212-6420
(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6240
(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6230
Greenwood County
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. William H. O'Dell

PTE@scsenate.org
WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6040
Hampton County
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

JWM@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6056
Horry County
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. J. Yancey McGill
Sen. Luke A. Rankin

CLEARYR@scsenate.org
DE@scsenate.org
JYM@scsenate.org
LR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6132
(803) 212-6132
Jasper County
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6056
Kershaw County
Sen. Joel Lourie
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

JBL@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6124
Lancaster County
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

SFG@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6330
(803) 212-6124
Laurens County
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III

PTE@scsenate.org
SAG@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6230
Lee County
Sen. Phil P. Leventis
Sen. Gerald Malloy

PL@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6148
Lexington County
Sen. John E. Courson
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer
Sen. John M. "Jake" Knotts, Jr.
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler

EDU@scsenate.org
CROMERR@scsenate.org
SIV@scsenate.org
NGS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6250
(803) 212-6040
(803) 212-6350
(803) 212-6140
Marion County
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Kent M. Williams

DE@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6008
Marlboro County
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Gerald Malloy
Sen. Kent M. Williams

DE@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6148
(803) 212-6008
McCormick County
Sen. A. Shane Massey

shanemassey@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6000
Newberry County
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer

CROMERR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6040
Oconee County
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander

SGE@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6220
Orangeburg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.

CBH@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6140
(803) 212-6056
Pickens County
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander
Sen. Larry A. Martin

SGE@scsenate.org
SRU@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6220
(803) 212-6340
Richland County
Sen. John E. Courson
Sen. Darrell Jackson
Sen. Joel Lourie
Sen. Kay Patterson

EDU@scsenate.org
DJ1@scsenate.org
JBL@scsenate.org
KAY@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6250
(803) 212-6048
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6048
Saluda County
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer
Sen. A. Shane Massey
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler

CROMERR@scsenate.org
shanemassey@scsenate.org
NGS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6040
(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6140
Spartanburg County
Sen. John D. Hawkins
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.
Sen. Glenn G. Reese
Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr.

DH@scsenate.org
MED@scsenate.org
GR@scsenate.org
JHR@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6008
(803) 212-6430
(803) 212-6108
(803) 212-6032
Sumter County
Sen. John C. Land III
Sen. Phil P. Leventis

JCL@scsenate.org
PL@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6180
(803) 212-6000
Union County
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.
Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr.
Sen. Linda H. Short (Mrs. Paul)

MED@scsenate.org
JHR@scsenate.org
LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6430
(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6148
Williamsburg County
Sen. J. Yancey McGill

JYM@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6132
York County
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory
Sen. Robert W. Hayes, Jr.
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.
Sen. Linda H. Short

SFG@scsenate.org
set@scsenate.org
MED@scsenate.org
LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 212-6330
(803) 212-6410
(803) 212-6430
(803) 212-6148
=====================================

*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***

Attention Concealed Weapon Permit (CWP) holders!

29 April 2008

Your right to carry in other states is under attack! If you want to be able to legally carry in 30+ states, then you need to act NOW! If you want to be able to carry in even fewer states than you can now, then just sit back and ignore this Action Alert.

GrassRoots GunRights analyzed the Senate amendment to H. 3212 and exposed in detail how the Sen. Jake Knotts amendment would make SC CWP reciprocity law WORSE than existing law. GrassRoots sent a detailed analysis of H. 3212 to every member of the SC House of Representatives, which you can read here.

But, it is not just GrassRoots GunRights that has analyzed H. 3212 and found it to be worse than existing law. Pro gun rights attorneys practicing law in South Carolina say the same thing!

J. Todd Kincannon [bio] is a pro gun attorney practicing in Columbia, SC. Mr. Kincannon wrote the GrassRoots GunRights amicus brief in the D.C. vs. Heller case. Mr. Kincannon wrote a letter stating, "I entirely agree with your conclusion that the Senate amendment to the CWP reciprocity bill is far too narrow." Mr. Kincannon acknowledged the GrassRoots analysis of H. 3212 is correct and that the Senate amendment is so poorly written that South Carolina would not qualify for reciprocity with itself. You can read the entire Kincannon letter here.

Stephen F. Shaw [bio] is a pro gun attorney practicing in Greenville, SC. Mr. Shaw wrote a letter stating, "I completely agree with Dr. Butler's analysis and proposed language dated March 12, 2008." Mr. Shaw acknowledged the GrassRoots analysis of H. 3212 is correct and that the Senate amendment is so poorly written that South Carolina would not qualify for reciprocity with itself. You can read the entire Shaw letter here.

Larry Salley is a pro gun attorney practicing in Lexington, SC. Mr. Salley wrote an email wherein he stated, "I've reviewed H. 3212, and I have a problem. It is so ambiguous, that it could be turned against us. My immediate problem is that there is no clear 'definitions' in the terms used in the bill. Keep in mind that whenever a liberal Court can interpret a law against a gunowner ... it will be interpreted against us." The GrassRoots analysis of H. 3212 also pointed out the problem with how SLED and the courts would interpret the law after considering how the definitions section related to the poorly drafted Senate amendment.

Unfortunately, Sen. Jake Knotts teamed up with anti gun Sen. Ralph Anderson and worked to destroy the CWP recognition (a CWP recognition bill means SC would honor a CWP from another state) bill passed by the House. The Senate amended H. 3212 with the Knotts/Anderson proposed amendment and thereby turned a good pro gun CWP recognition bill into a horrible anti gun CWP reciprocity (a CWP reciprocity bill means SC would only honor a limited number of CWPs from other states) bill that is worse than existing law.

But, Sen. Knotts' efforts to kill a good CWP recognition bill this year should not surprise anyone who has been watching the Senate for the last few years. In 2006, Sen. Knotts led the fight to kill a similar CWP recognition bill.

What is truly disturbing in all of this is that the NRA is supporting the Senate amendment and has been actively promoting Sen. Knotts as a friend of gun owners even as Sen. Knotts is trying to kill a good CWP recognition bill AGAIN. The NRA even wrote of how a good CWP reciprocity bill was killed in 2006, and failed to point out that it was Sen. Knotts who killed it.

Thankfully, the House rejected the Senate amendment and insisted upon a CWP recognition bill. H. 3212 will now go to a conference committee. A conference committee has three members of the Senate and three members of the House meet to decide how to work out the differences between the House and Senate versions of a bill.

There are two kinds of conference committees - one with free conference powers and one with no free conference powers.

A conference committee with no free conference powers must choose to adopt either the Senate version or the House version. No compromises are allowed. The Senate version of H. 3212 is completely unacceptable to gun owners since it would make our SC CWP law worse than existing law. The House version of H. 3212 is unacceptable to Sen. Knotts, and unfortunately many senators listen to Sen. Knotts and will do as Sen. Knotts wants them to do on gun bills. Thus, H. 3212 is dead in conference committee unless gun owners make Sen. Knotts change his mind. The only thing that would make Sen. Knotts change his mind is to make him think he will lose his primary election to Katrina Shealy, a CWP holder who supports H. 3212 as it came from the House.

A conference committee with free conference powers is allowed to try to compromise and amend the bill into one that is acceptable to both the House and the Senate. The only way that the GrassRoots proposed amendment could possibly be adopted is if both the House and the Senate granted free conference powers to the conference committee. While GrassRoots prefers to see a pure CWP recognition bill passed, the GrassRoots proposed amendment to H. 3212 would get SC CWP reciprocity with more states than we have reciprocity with now.

*** ACTION STEPS: ***

  1. Email every senator and representative who represents people from the county in which you live. Since the NRA is asking people to support the Senate version of H. 3212, you need to tell these politicians that "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on H. 3212!" The pro gun House is listening to GrassRoots GunRights, but the anti gun Senate is listening to the NRA. Politicians need to know GrassRoots GunRights speaks for gun owners in South Carolina, or else you will get the Senate version of H. 3212. Contact information is below. (You can send individual emails using the email addresses in the middle column, or you can send one email to the entire county delegation by clicking on the county name in the first column. Certain email programs such as Gmail may insert a "+" sign in front of the email addresses when clicking on the county delegation in the first column. You may need to delete any symbols inserted by your email provider.)

  2. Call your senator and representative and tell them "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on H. 3212!" Use the Senate switchboard (803) 212-6200, and the House switchboard (803) 734-2402, or use the individual office numbers listed below.

  3. Contact Sen. Knotts and let him know how you feel about his betrayal of gun owners. His email is SIV@scsenate.org and his office phone number is (803) 212-6350.

Abbeville County
Rep. Paul Agnew
Rep. Michael W. "Mike" Gambrell
Rep. Michael A. Pitts
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. William H. O'Dell

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GambrellM@schouse.org
PittsM@schouse.org
PTE@scsenate.org
WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2993
(803) 734-2947
(803) 734-2830
(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6040
Aiken County
Rep. William "Bill" Clyburn
Rep. Robert S. "Skipper" Perry, Jr.
Rep. Donald C. Smith
Rep. J. Roland Smith
Rep. Kit Spires
Rep. James E. "Jim" Stewart
Sen. W. Greg Ryberg
Sen. A. Shane Massey
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler

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SpiresK@schouse.org
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shanemassey@scsenate.org
NGS@scsenate.org

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(803) 734-3032
(803) 734-3031
(803) 734-3114
(803) 734-3010
(803) 734-3034
(803) 212-6320
(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6140
Allendale County
Rep. Lonnie Hosey
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto

LH1@schouse.org
CBH@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2829
(803) 212-6140
Anderson County
Rep. Paul Agnew
Rep. Don Carson Bowen
Rep. Daniel T. Cooper
Rep. Michael W. "Mike" Gambrell
Rep. Michael D. Thompson
Rep. W. Brian White
Sen. Kevin L. Bryant
Sen. William H. O'Dell

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WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2993
(803) 734-3038
(803) 734-3144
(803) 734-2947
(803) 734-3014
(803) 734-3113
(803) 212-6024
(803) 212-6040
Bamberg County
Rep. Bakari T. Sellers
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.

SellersB@schouse.org
CBH@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3003
(803) 212-6140
(803) 212-6056
Barnwell County
Rep. Lonnie Hosey
Rep. Bakari T. Sellers
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto

LH1@schouse.org
SellersB@schouse.org
CBH@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2829
(803) 734-3003
(803) 212-6140
Beaufort County
Rep. Curtis Brantley
Rep. Richard Chalk
Rep. Shannon S. Erickson
Rep. William G. "Bill" Herbkersman
Rep. Kenneth F. Hodges
Sen. Catherine C. Ceips
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

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CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2965
(803) 734-3067
(803) 734-3261
(803) 734-3063
(803) 734-3062
(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6056
Berkeley County
Rep. Thomas M. "Tom" Dantzler
Rep. Joseph H. Jefferson, Jr.
Rep. Harry B. "Chip" Limehouse III
Rep. James H. Merrill
Rep. C. David Umphlett, Jr.
Sen. Paul G. Campbell, Jr.
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms

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(803) 734-2949
(803) 734-2936
(803) 734-2977
(803) 734-3138
(803) 734-2946
(803) 212-6016
(803) 212-6016
(803) 212-6400
Calhoun County
Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr.
Sen. John C. Land III

HLO@schouse.org
JCL@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2998
(803) 212-6180
Charleston County
Rep. Floyd Breeland
Rep. Robert L. Brown
Rep. Thomas M. "Tom" Dantzler
Rep. Ben A. Hagood, Jr.
Rep. Robert W. Harrell, Jr., Speaker
Rep. Heyward G. Hutson
Rep. Harry B. "Chip" Limehouse III
Rep. David J. Mack III
Rep. James H. Merrill
Rep. Vida O. Miller
Rep. Wallace B. Scarborough
Rep. Leonidas E. "Leon" Stavrinakis
Rep. J. Seth Whipper
Rep. Annette D. Young
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. Robert Ford
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. Glenn F. McConnell
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney
Sen. Randy Scott

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Cherokee County
Rep. Lanny F. Littlejohn
Rep. Dennis Carroll Moss
Rep. Olin R. Phillips
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.

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ORP@schouse.org
MED@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3141
(803) 734-3073
(803) 734-2958
(803) 212-6430
Chester County
Rep. Creighton B. Coleman
Rep. F. Gregory "Greg" Delleney, Jr.
Rep. Dennis Carroll Moss
Sen. Linda H. Short

cbc@schouse.org
fgd@schouse.org
MossD@schouse.org
LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3140
(803) 734-3074
(803) 734-3073
(803) 212-6148
Chesterfield County
Rep. Douglas Jennings, Jr.
Rep. James H. "Jay" Lucas
Rep. Denny Woodall Neilson
Rep. Ted Martin Vick
Sen. Gerald Malloy
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

DJ@schouse.org
JL@schouse.org
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VickT@schouse.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3065
(803) 734-2961
(803) 734-3097
(803) 734-2999
(803) 212-6148
(803) 212-6124
Clarendon County
Rep. Cathy B. Harvin
Rep. G. Murrell Smith, Jr.
Sen. John C. Land III

HarvinC@schouse.org
GMS@schouse.org
JCL@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3135
(803) 734-3042
(803) 212-6180
Colleton County
Rep. William K. Bowers
Rep. Robert L. Brown
Rep. Kenneth F. Hodges
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

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STR@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2959
(803) 734-3170
(803) 734-3062
(803) 212-6400
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6056
Darlington County
Rep. James H. "Jay" Lucas
Rep. Denny Woodall Neilson
Rep. Robert Quintin Williams
Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr.
Sen. Gerald Malloy

JL@schouse.org
DWN@schouse.org
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SFI@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2961
(803) 734-3097
(803) 734-3142
(803) 212-6640
(803) 212-6148
Dillon County
Rep. Jackie E. Hayes
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Kent M. Williams

JH@schouse.org
DE@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3099
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6008
Dorchester County
Rep. Robert W. Harrell, Jr., Speaker
Rep. Heyward G. Hutson
Re. Patsy Knight
Rep. Annette D. Young
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Randy Scott

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(803) 734-3125
(803) 734-3239
(803) 734-2960
(803) 734-2953
(803) 212-6400
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6024
Edgefield County
Rep. William "Bill" Clyburn
Rep. Donald C. Smith
Sen. A. Shane Massey

WC@schouse.org
DCS@schouse.org
shanemassey@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3033
(803) 734-3031
(803) 212-6000
Fairfield County
Rep. Creighton B. Coleman
Sen. Linda H. Short

cbc@schouse.org
LHS@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3140
(803) 212-6148
Florence County
Rep. Terry Alexander
Rep. Lester P. Branham. Jr.
Rep. Kristopher R. "Kris" Crawford
Rep. Phillip Dean Lowe
Rep.Robert Quintin Williams
Sen. John C. Land III
Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr.
Sen. J. Yancey McGill
Sen. Kent M. Williams

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LoweP@schouse.org
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(803) 734-3004
(803) 734-3002
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(803) 734-2975
(803) 734-3142
(803) 212-6180
(803) 212-6640
(803) 212-6132
(803) 212-6008
Georgetown County
Rep. Carl Anderson
Rep. Vida O. Miller
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. J. Yancey McGill

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VOM@schouse.org
CLEARYR@scsenate.org
JYM@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2933
(803) 734-2957
(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6132
Greenville County
Rep. Karl B. Allen
Rep. Bruce W. Bannister
Rep. Eric Michael Bedingfield
Rep. Harry F. Cato
Rep. Glenn L. Hamilton
Rep. Gloria Arias Haskins
Rep. Robert W. "Bob" Leach, Sr.
Rep. Dwight A. Loftis
Rep. Rex F. Rice
Rep. Phillip W. Shoopman
Rep. Fletcher N. Smith, Jr.
Rep. Garry R. Smith
Rep.J. Adam Taylor
Sen. Ralph Anderson
Sen. Michael L. Fair
Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr.
Sen. David L. Thomas
Sen. Lewis R. Vaughn
Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III

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RA@scsenate.org
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JHR@scsenate.org
SBI@scsenate.org
LRV@scsenate.org
SAG@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3006
(803) 734-3009
(803) 734-2962
(803) 734-3015
(803) 734-3075
(803) 734-2978
(803) 734-3107
(803) 734-3101
(803) 734-3035
(803) 734-3072
(803) 734-3059
803) 734-3045
(803) 734-2990
(803) 212-6108
(803) 212-6420
(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6240
(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6230
Greenwood County
Rep. J. Anne Parks
Rep. Lewis E. "Gene" Pinson
Rep. Michael A. Pitts
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. William H. O'Dell

JAP@schouse.org
PinsonG@schouse.org
PittsM@schouse.org
PTE@scsenate.org
WHO@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3069
(803) 734-2821
(803) 734-2830
(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6040
Hampton County
Rep. William K. Bowers
Rep. Curtis Brantley
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

BrantleyC@schouse.org
WKB@schouse.org
JWM@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2965
(803) 734-2959
(803) 212-6056
(803) 212-6056
Horry County
Rep. Liston D. Barfield
Rep. Alan D. Clemmons
Rep. Tracy R. Edge
Rep. Nelson Hardwick
Rep. Jackie E. Hayes
Rep. Thad T. Viers
Rep. William D. Witherspoon
Sen. Ray Cleary
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. J. Yancey McGill
Sen. Luke A. Rankin

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(803) 734-3064
(803) 734-3022
(803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6132
(803) 212-6132
Jasper County
Rep. Curtis Brantley
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney

BrantleyC@schouse.org
CCP@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2965
(803) 212-6056
Kershaw County
Rep. William F. "Bill" Cotty
Rep. Laurie Slade Funderburk
Rep. James H. "Jay" Lucas
Sen. Joel Lourie
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

WFC@schouse.org
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JL@schouse.org
JBL@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 734-4851
(803) 734-3044
(803) 734-2961
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6124
Lancaster County
Rep. James H. "Jay" Lucas
Rep. J. Michael "Mick" Mulvaney
Rep. James M. "Jimmy" Neal
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen

JL@schouse.org
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jmn@schouse.org
SFG@scsenate.org
VS@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2961
(803) 734-2937
(803) 734-2976
(803) 212-6330
(803) 212-6124
Laurens County
Rep. Jeffrey D. "Jeff" Duncan
Rep. J. Adam Taylor
Rep. Michael A. Pitts
Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III

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PittsM@schouse.org
PTE@scsenate.org
SAG@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2974
(803) 734-2830
(803) 734-2990
(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6230
Lee County
Rep. Grady A. Brown
Sen. Phil P. Leventis
Sen. Gerald Malloy

GB@schouse.org
PL@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2934
(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6148
Lexington County
Rep. Nathan Ballentine
Rep. Kenneth A. "Kenny" Bingham
Rep. Marion B. Frye
Rep. Nikki Randhawa Haley
Rep. Chip Huggins
Rep. Walton J. McLeod
Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr.
Rep. Edward H. "Ted" Pitts, Jr.
Rep. Lawrence Kit Spires
Rep. McLain R. "Mac" Toole
Sen. John E. Courson
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer
Sen. John M. "Jake" Knotts, Jr.
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler

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(803) 734-3010
(803) 734-2973
(803) 212-6250
(803) 212-6040
(803) 212-6350
(803) 212-6140
Marion County
Rep. Terry Alexander
Rep. James A. "Jim" Battle, Jr.
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Kent M. Williams

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DE@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3004
(803) 734-3001
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6008
Marlboro County
Rep. Douglas Jennings, Jr.
Sen. Dick Elliott
Sen. Gerald Malloy
Sen. Kent M. Williams

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DE@scsenate.org
MALLOYG@scsenate.org
WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3065
(803) 212-6116
(803) 212-6148
(803) 212-6008
McCormick County
Rep. J. Anne Parks
Sen. A. Shane Massey

JAP@schouse.org
shanemassey@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3069
(803) 212-6000
Newberry County
Rep. Jeffrey D. "Jeff" Duncan
Rep. Walton J. McLeod
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer

DuncanJ@schouse.org
WJM@schouse.org
CROMERR@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2974
(803) 734-3276
(803) 212-6040
Oconee County
Rep. Don Carson Bowen
Rep. William E. "Bill" Sandifer III
Rep. William R. "Bill" Whitmire
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander

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WES@schouse.org
WhitmireW@schouse.org
SGE@scsenate.org

(803) 734-3038
(803) 734-3109
(803) 734-3068
(803) 212-6220
Orangeburg County
Rep. Gilda Cobb-Hunter
Rep. Jerry N. Govan, Jr.
Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr.
Rep. Bakari T. Sellers
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.

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HLO@schouse.org
SellersB@schouse.org
CBH@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org

(803) 734-2809
(803) 734-3012
(803) 734-2998
(803) 734-3003
(803) 212-6140
(803) 212-6056
Pickens County
Rep. David R. Hiott
Rep. Phillip D. "Phil" Owens
Rep. Rex F. Rice
Rep. William E. "Bill" Sandifer III
Rep. B. R. Skelton
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander
Sen. Larry A. Martin

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(803) 734-3237
(803) 734-3035
(803) 734-3109
(803) 734-3036
(803) 212-6220
(803) 212-6340
Richland County
Rep. Dr. Jimmy C. Bales
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*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***

H. 3212 NEEDS YOUR HELP!

24 March 2008

ACT NOW! H. 3212 is now in YOUR hands!

Your calls and emails last week resulted in a slightly improved bill, but the Senate didn't properly fix the bill. The SC Senate failed to remove their amendment to H. 3212 and restore it to a recognition bill before sending it back the the SC House for their approval. In its current form, H. 3212 is still so poorly written that South Carolina could not even get reciprocity with itself! Below is the letter GrassRoots is providing to each member of the SC House of Representatives.

*** ACTION STEPS: *** (Scroll down for a contact list of your legislators.)

  1. Call EACH Representative from your county first thing in the morning on Tuesday. Tell them "I'm calling about H. 3212. GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!"
  2. Email EACH Representative from your county and send the message "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" (Cut and paste "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" in both the subject line and the body of the text.)

The Honorable Robert W. Harrell, Jr.
South Carolina House of Representatives
P.O. Box 11867
Columbia, SC 29211

The concealed weapon permit (CWP) recognition bill - H. 3212 - passed by the House last year was amended in the Senate. The Senate amendment turns H. 3212 into a horrible bill that could easily make CWP reciprocity with South Carolina worse rather than better. The Senate amendment would change things so drastically that South Carolina could not even get reciprocity with itself!

The Senate amended H. 3212 to read as follows:

"(N) Valid out-of-state permits to carry concealable weapons held by a resident of a reciprocal state must be honored by this State , provided, that the reciprocal state requires an applicant to successfully pass a criminal background check and a course in firearm training and safety. A resident of a reciprocal state carrying a concealable weapon in South Carolina is subject to and must abide by the laws of South Carolina regarding concealable weapons. SLED shall make a determination as to those states which have permit issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards contained in this article and shall maintain and publish a list of those states as the states with which South Carolina has reciprocity."

The logical reasoning that follows below will prove why H. 3212 is a terrible bill as amended by the Senate and why it needs to be amended to actually accomplish that which the NRA inaccurately claims it does now. Then, GrassRoots will provide alternative language to amend H. 3212 so that H. 3212 will actually do what it is claimed that it does now.

Words have meaning, which is why they are so important in legal matters. Words are so important that the law frequently defines a word as it is to be used in a particular article of law rather than leaving the definition of the word to common usage, which could allow for different interpretations.

The South Carolina "Law Abiding Citizens Self-Defense Act of 1996" defined certain words. Those definitions can not be ignored when considering amendments to the law. A definition critical to a proper understanding of the impact of the Senate amendment to H. 3212 can found in Section 23-31-210(5), which reads as follows:

"Proof of training" means an original document or certified copy of the document supplied by an applicant that certifies that he is either:

(a) a person who, within three years before filing an application, has successfully completed a basic or advanced handgun education course offered by a state, county, or municipal law enforcement agency or a nationally recognized organization that promotes gun safety. This education course must be a minimum of eight hours and must include, but is not limited to:

(i) information on the statutory and case law of this State relating to handguns and to the use of deadly force;

(ii) information on handgun use and safety;

(iii) information on the proper storage practice for handguns with an emphasis on storage practices that reduces the possibility of accidental injury to a child; and

(iv) the actual firing of the handgun in the presence of the instructor;

(b) an instructor certified by the National Rifle Association or another SLED-approved competent national organization that promotes the safe use of handguns;

(c) a person who can demonstrate to the Director of SLED or his designee that he has a proficiency in both the use of handguns and state laws pertaining to handguns;

(d) an active duty police handgun instructor;

(e) a person who has a SLED-certified or approved competitive handgun shooting classification; or

(f) a member of the active or reserve military, or a member of the National Guard who has had handgun training in the previous three years.

SLED shall promulgate regulations containing general guidelines for courses and qualifications for instructors which would satisfy the requirements of this item. For purposes of subitems (a) and (b), "proof of training" is not satisfied unless the organization and its instructors meet or exceed the guidelines and qualifications contained in the regulations promulgated by SLED pursuant to this item.

Existing South Carolina law - Section 23-31-215(A)(5) - allows a person to qualify for a CWP if that person can satisfy just one of the six legal alternatives for "proof of training" found in Section 23-31-210(5) above. A "course in firearm training and safety" is only one of those alternatives, and what constitutes a proper "course in firearm training and safety" is further defined in Section 23-31-210(5)(a) as a minimum eight (8) hour class.

Existing South Carolina law Section 23-31-215(N) states:

Valid out-of-state permits to carry concealable weapons held by a resident of a reciprocal state must be honored by this State. SLED shall make a determination as to those states which have permit issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards contained in this article and shall maintain and publish a list of those states as the states with which South Carolina has reciprocity.

As can be readily seen from the above cited SC law, existing SC law allows for CWP reciprocity with states that do not necessarily require a "course in firearm training and safety." All that is required under existing SC law is that another state have CWP "issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards contained in this article," and SC legally allows for five alternatives that do not require a "course in firearm training and safety." Thus, if the Senate amendment to H. 3212 is enacted into law, South Carolina would not be eligible for CWP reciprocity with itself because South Carolina does not necessarily require a "course in firearm training and safety" to obtain a CWP as the Senate amendment would mandate. Does the Senate really fear NRA certified instructors, active duty police handgun instructors, or members of the active or reserve military or members of the National Guard who have had handgun training in the previous three years who qualified for a CWP in their home state? GrassRoots will propose an amendment to H. 3212 to remedy this shortcoming that was overlooked, misunderstood, and denied by the NRA.

There is no excuse for using ambiguous language to draft legislation when clear and concise language would ensure the intent of the legislature was codified. Otherwise, the ambiguous language could lead to years of litigation at best, and possibly great bodily harm or death to those denied the ability to properly defend themselves.

The NRA has claimed the Senate amendment will allow CWP reciprocity with states that do not require an eight (8) hour "course in firearm training and safety. " Unfortunately, that is not clear from the language used in the Senate amendment.

Going back to the definitions section of the South Carolina "Law Abiding Citizens Self-Defense Act of 1996," an eight (8) hour minimum class time is required to satisfy the "proof of training" requirement when the classroom alternative is chosen for "proof of training." The Senate amendment to H. 3212 does nothing to change the definition of what constitutes a proper education course. This failure makes for an ambiguous situation.

If SLED or a court was asked to decide what constituted a proper "course in firearm training and safety," it could easily be argued that the definitions section of the South Carolina "Law Abiding Citizens Self-Defense Act of 1996" controlled, which would mean a minimum eight (8) hour class. Why leave things to chance? Why leave things ambiguous? Why not say exactly what is meant?

It is important to note the NRA already made errors in drafting the Senate amendment to H. 3212 on March 13, 2008. Only after GrassRoots exposed those drafting errors in a letter to the Senate dated March 17, 2008, did the NRA then draft a new amendment to remedy one of the errors. Over the years, GrassRoots has proven itself as the organization best able to properly draft legislation without errors.

GrassRoots requests that the House reject the Senate amendment to H. 3212 and return H. 3212 back to the CWP recognition bill passed last year. But, if the House is determined to pass H. 3212 even as a CWP reciprocity bill, then the Senate amendment still needs to be rejected because it does not accomplish that which it is claimed it accomplishes. The Senate amendment to H. 3212 needs to be replaced with a GrassRoots proposed amendment that will accomplish that which the NRA wrongly claims the Senate amendment will do.

GrassRoots proposes the following language to replace the Senate amendment to H. 3212:

"(N) Valid out-of-state permits to carry concealable weapons held by a resident of a reciprocal state must be honored by this State, provided, the reciprocal state requires an applicant to successfully pass a criminal background check and either 1) any course in firearm training and safety accepted by the reciprocal state, or 2) other proof of training that would be accepted under South Carolina law. A resident of a reciprocal state carrying a concealable weapon in South Carolina is subject to and must abide by the laws of South Carolina regarding concealable weapons. SLED shall make a determination as to those states which have permit issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards contained in this article and shall maintain and publish a list of those states as the states with which South Carolina has reciprocity."

The GrassRoots proposed amendment makes it clear the SC CWP reciprocity law should not be interpreted using the definitions section of the South Carolina CWP law, and the GrassRoots proposed amendment will thus ensure the SC CWP law will allow less than an eight (8) hour minimum class time to satisfy the reciprocity requirement. This is exactly what people are now being told the Senate amendment will do, so this should not be a controversial change.

The GrassRoots proposed amendment will also allow for CWP reciprocity with states like South Carolina that allow alternatives to a "course in firearm training and safety" to satisfy the "proof of training" requirement, i.e., NRA certified instructors, active duty police handgun instructors, or members of the active or reserve military or members of the National Guard who have had handgun training in the previous three years who qualified for a CWP in their home state. This change will allow reciprocity with Florida, which allows for issuance of a CWP upon presentation of "evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or military service.

If you have any questions concerning H. 3212 or the effects of the intricacies of the various sections of law upon CWP reciprocity, please contact me at XXX.XXX.XXXX.

Robert D. Butler, J.D.
Vice President
GrassRoots GunRights of SC

*** ACTION STEPS: ***

  1. Call EACH Representative from your county first thing in the morning on Tuesday. Tell them "I'm calling about H. 3212. GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!"
  2. Email EACH Representative from your county and send the message "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" (Cut and paste "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" in both the subject line and the body of the text.)

Thank you for doing your part as a gun rights activist!

Bill Rentiers
Executive Officer
GrassRoots GunRights of SC
ExecOfficer@SCFirearms.org
803-233-9295

Abbeville County
Rep. Paul Agnew, District 11
Rep. Michael W. "Mike" Gambrell, District 7
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Anderson County
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Barnwell County
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Rep. Bakari T. Sellers, District 90

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Beaufort County
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Berkeley County
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Calhoun County
Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr., District 93

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Charleston County
Rep. Floyd Breeland, District 111
Rep. Robert L. Brown, District 116
Rep. Thomas M. "Tom" Dantzler, District 117
Rep. Ben A. Hagood, Jr., District 112
Rep. Robert W. Harrell, Jr., Speaker, District 114
Rep. Heyward G. Hutson, District 94
Rep. Harry B. "Chip" Limehouse III, District 110
Rep. David J. Mack III, District 109
Rep. James H. Merrill, District 99
Rep. Vida O. Miller, District 108
Rep. Wallace B. Scarborough, District 115
Rep. Leonidas E. "Leon" Stavrinakis, District 119
Rep. J. Seth Whipper, District 113
Rep. Annette D. Young, District 98

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Cherokee County
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Chester County
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Chesterfield County
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Clarendon County
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Colleton County
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Darlington County
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Dillon County
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Dorchester County
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Edgefield County
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Fairfield County
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Florence County
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Georgetown County
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Rep. Glenn L. Hamilton, District 20
Rep. Gloria Arias Haskins, District 22
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Horry County
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Jasper County
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Kershaw County
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Laurens County
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Rep. J. Adam Taylor, District 16
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Lee County
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Lexington County
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Rep. Kenneth A. "Kenny" Bingham, District 89
Rep. Marion B. Frye, District 39
Rep. Nikki Randhawa Haley, District 87
Rep. Chip Huggins, District 85
Rep. Walton J. McLeod, District 40
Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr., District 93
Rep. Edward H. "Ted" Pitts, Jr., District 69
Rep. Lawrence Kit Spires, District 96
Rep. McLain R. "Mac" Toole, District 88

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Marion County
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Marlboro County
Rep. Douglas Jennings, Jr., District 54

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McCormick County
Rep. J. Anne Parks, District 12

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Newberry County
Rep. Jeffrey D. "Jeff" Duncan, District 15
Rep. Walton J. McLeod, District 40

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Oconee County
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Orangeburg County
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Rep. Jerry N. Govan, Jr., District 95
Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr., District 93
Rep. Bakari T. Sellers, District 90

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Pickens County
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Rep. Rex F. Rice, District 26
Rep. William E. "Bill" Sandifer III, District 2
Rep. B. R. Skelton, District 3

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Richland County
Rep. Dr. Jimmy C. Bales, District 80
Rep. Nathan Ballentine, District 71
Rep. Joan Brady , District 78
Rep. William F. "Bill" Cotty, District 79
Rep. James H. Harrison, District 75
Rep. Christopher Richard Hart, District 73
Rep. Leon Howard, District 76
Rep. Joseph H. Neal, District 70
Rep. J. Todd Rutherford, District 74
Rep. John L. Scott, Jr., District 77
Rep. James E. Smith, Jr., District 72

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Saluda County
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Rep. G. Ralph Davenport, Jr., District 37
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Rep. Joseph G. Mahaffey, District 36
Rep. Harold Mitchell, Jr., District 31
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Rep. Scott F. Talley, District 34
Rep. Robert E. "Bob" Walker, District 38

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Rep. Joseph H. Neal, District 70
Rep. G. Murrell Smith. Jr., District 67
Rep. J. David Weeks, District 51

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Union County
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Williamsburg County
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York County
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Rep. Carl Lee Gullick, District 48
Rep. Herb Kirsh, District 47
Rep. Bessie Moody-Lawrence, District 49
Rep. Dennis Carroll Moss, District 29
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Rep. J. Gary Simrill, District 46

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*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***

H. 3212 NEEDS YOUR IMMEDIATE HELP!

17 March 2008

Your IMMEDIATE action is needed to save H. 3212 in the Senate! If you do not act first thing Tuesday morning, it will be too late!

Sen. Jake Knotts amended H. 3212 on Thursday. As amended it will be WORSE than current law. NRA is supporting this bill for unknown reasons since the bill will not increase the number of states with which SC can have reciprocity. So, the politicians must hear the message "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!"

GrassRoots apologizes for the last minute notice, but things are moving fast and research was needed to be sure our suspicions were correct about the H. 3212. We will have a full explanation up on our web site by tomorrow morning.

Below is the text of the letter we are sending to each Senator.

The Honorable Glenn F. McConnell
South Carolina Senate
P.O. Box 142
Columbia, SC 29202

RE: H. 3212

Dear Senator McConnell:

The Knotts/Anderson amendment to H. 3212 - the concealed weapon permit (CWP) reciprocity bill - is so bad that South Carolina would not qualify for reciprocity with itself! So, how could that possibly lead to reciprocity with more states as claimed by its supporters?

There are serious problems with the Knotts/Anderson amendment. An analysis of H. 3212 shows H. 3212 should REDUCE the number of states with which SC has reciprocity, NOT increase the number. Also, H. 3212 is the first step in changing SC law to require re-qualification for CWP renewals. A full explanation of all that is wrong with the Knotts/Anderson amendment can be found on the GrassRoots GunRights web site at www.SCFirearms.org. In the interests of saving time and space, only the worst aspects of H. 3212 are being presented in this letter.

Existing SC CWP law makes a legal distinction between a fingerprint review and a background check. Section 23-31-215(B) states:
Upon submission of the items required by subsection (A) of this section, SLED must conduct or facilitate a local, state, and federal fingerprint review of the applicant. SLED must also conduct a background check of the applicant through notification to and input from the sheriff of the county where the applicant resides or if the applicant is a qualified nonresident, where the applicant owns real property in this State. … If the fingerprint review and background check are favorable, SLED must issue the permit. [emphasis added]

As shown immediately above, existing SC CWP law requires "a local, state, and federal fingerprint review," but explicitly requires only a local background check and by inference requires a state background check by SLED. SC CWP law fails to mention a federal background check as a requirement for obtaining a SC CWP.

The Knotts/Anderson amendment would change existing SC CWP law to allow CWP reciprocity ONLY if "the reciprocal state requires an applicant to successfully pass a state and federal criminal background check." The Knotts/Anderson amendment sets a higher standard for CWP reciprocity than existing SC law does by explicitly requiring people from other states "to successfully pass a … federal criminal background check." SC CWP holders are not explicitly required to pass a federal criminal background check, only a federal fingerprint review.

The only result that can come from this change is to REDUCE the number of states with which SC can have reciprocity. It is quite possible SC would LOSE reciprocity with states with which SC currently has reciprocity due to the new standards imposed by the Knotts/Anderson amendment. If other states follow SC and also do not require a federal background check prior to issuing a CWP, then SC could lose reciprocity with those states with which SC currently has reciprocity. Ironically, SC would not qualify for reciprocity with itself under the new standards imposed by the Knotts/Anderson amendment!

It is claimed the Knotts/Anderson amendment would allow for reciprocity with states that require less than the eight (8) hour training course currently required by SC law in Section 23-31-210(5)(a). But, the words of the Knotts/Anderson amendment do not support such a claim or interpretation.

SC law does not provide for a different definition of "proof of training" for use by CWP holders in other states than it does for SC CWP holders. The Knotts/Anderson amendment does not change the law as to how many hours a "firearm training and safety" course must be - which is statutorily defined as eight (8) hours minimum for all. Thus, the Knotts/Anderson amendment could not possibly increase the number of states eligible for CWP reciprocity with SC, and any statement to the contrary is not supported by the facts.

Existing SC law explicitly provides for reciprocity with "those states which have permit issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards" set by SC law. The Knotts/Anderson amendment changes the SC CWP reciprocity law to allow reciprocity if "the reciprocal state requires an applicant to successfully pass a state and federal criminal background check and a course in firearm training and safety." There is no longer a mention of SC CWP standards when dealing with reciprocity.

The Knotts/Anderson amendment is not designed to increase the number of states with which SC can have CWP reciprocity. The ulterior motive behind the Knotts/Anderson amendment is to lay the foundation for requiring CWP re-qualification every four years.

The unspoken reason for deleting reference to SC standards with regards to CWP reciprocity found in the Knotts/Anderson amendment is that such a change provides the opportunity to require CWP re-qualification every four years. It is no secret that Sen. Knotts has wanted to impose CWP re-qualification for years. But, doing so would have destroyed every existing CWP reciprocity agreement since no other state imposes such a requirement. The mandated re-qualification would be a great monetary opportunity/reward for NRA certified instructors, which would easily explain NRA support. But, re-qualification is not in the best interests of the people of SC generally or SC CWP holders in particular. It is not a change supported by GrassRoots GunRights and its members.

The fear mongers claim they are only protecting the people of SC by insisting on CWP "training" prior to allowing people to carry a firearm pursuant to the CWP law. But, there is no evidence to support the claim that CWP "training" saves any lives. Yet, there is reliable evidence proving mandated CWP "training" actually costs lives when good people are deterred from obtaining a CWP due to the extra costs in time and money. Unfortunately, the facts do not matter to those with a political agenda or a financial interest.

GrassRoots GunRights urges you to repeal the Knotts/Anderson amendment and pass H. 3212 exactly as it came from the Senate Judiciary Committee. Otherwise, kill H. 3212 because the Knotts/Anderson amendment makes the SC CWP law worse than it is now.

Sincerely,

Robert D. Butler, J.D.
Vice President
GrassRoots GunRights

*** ACTION STEPS: ***

  1. Call EACH Senator from your county first thing in the morning because the bill will be voted on Tuesday.
  2. Email EACH Senator from your county and send the message "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" (Cut and paste "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" in both the subject line and the body of the text.)
  3. Be sure to say "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on CWP reciprocity."

Thank you for doing your part as a gun rights activist!

Bill Rentiers
Executive Officer
GrassRoots GunRights of SC
ExecOfficer@SCFirearms.org
803-233-9295

Abbeville County
Sen. John W. Drummond, District 10
Sen. William H. O'Dell, District 4

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(803) 212-6455
(803) 212-6040
Aiken County
Sen. W. Greg Ryberg, District 24
Sen. A. Shane Massey, District 25
Sen. Nikki G. Setzler, District 26

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(803) 212-6000
(803) 212-6140
Allendale County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto, District 40

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(803) 212-6140
Anderson County
Sen. Kevin L. Bryant, District 3
Sen. William H. O'Dell, District 4

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(803) 212-6024
(803) 212-6040
Bamberg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto, District 40
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr., District 39

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(803) 212-6140
(803) 212-6056
Barnwell County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto , District 40

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(803) 212-6140
Beaufort County
Sen. Catherine C. Ceips, District 46
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney, District 45

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(803) 212-6032
(803) 212-6056
Berkeley County
Sen. Paul G. Campbell, Jr., District 44
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III, District 43
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms, District 37

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