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*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***
Senate Plans to Quietly Kill H. 3212!
Take Action Now!
May 22, 2008
The CWP Recognition bill - H. 3212 - is in grave danger of dying in the Senate! Your immediate action is critical to saving this
important legislation!
GrassRoots GunRights just received inside information from members of the House and Senate that the Senate plans to let H. 3212 quietly die without taking any
action on H. 3212. The Senate does NOT plan to go into a conference committee on H. 3212. But, it is possible for the Senate to by-pass the conference committee.
The Senate can vote to accept the House version of H. 3212 without going to conference committee. This can be done. But, it will only get done if YOU let your
senator know how strongly you feel about being denied the right to carry and properly protect your family in other states.
If you want CWP recognition to pass so that you can carry in 30+ states, then it is critical YOU make PHONE CALLS (not just send emails) to the
Senate immediately! We need to shut the Senate switchboard down! We need to do this EVERY DAY until the Senate adjourns on June 5.
*** Action Steps ***
- CALL every Senator from your county TODAY. Insist they PASS the House version of H. 3212 this session! Tell them you will be watching this bill closely
and it will affect how you vote in November! "Tell them GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!"
- Call them again TOMORROW. CALL again every day until the House version of H. 3212 passes.
The Senate switchboard number is 803-212-6200. Individual telephone numbers and email addresses for each Senator are listed below.
Only YOUR repeated phone calls can save H. 3212. Thank you for your activism!
Bill Rentiers
Executive Officer
Abbeville County
Sen. John W. Drummond Sen. William H. O'Dell |
PTE@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6040 |
Aiken County
Sen. W. Greg Ryberg Sen. A. Shane Massey Sen. Nikki G. Setzler |
SLC@scsenate.org shanemassey@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6320 (803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6140 |
Allendale County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto |
CBH@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 |
Anderson County
Sen. Kevin L. Bryant Sen. William H. O'Dell |
BRYANTK@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6024 (803) 212-6040 |
Bamberg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. |
CBH@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 (803) 212-6056 |
Barnwell County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto |
CBH@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 |
Beaufort County
Sen. Catherine C. Ceips Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
CEIPS@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6056 |
Berkeley County
Sen. Paul G. Campbell, Jr. Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms |
PaulCampbell@scsenate.org CAMPSEN@scsenate.org STR@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6400 |
Calhoun County
Sen. John C. Land III
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JCL@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6180 |
Charleston County
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. Robert Ford Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms Sen. Glenn F. McConnell
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney Sen. Randy Scott |
CAMPSEN@scsenate.org CLEARYR@scsenate.org RIF@scsenate.org STR@scsenate.org SJU@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org SCOTTR@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6124 (803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6610 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6024 |
Cherokee County
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. |
MED@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6430 |
Chester County
Sen. Linda H. Short |
LHS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6148 |
Chesterfield County
Sen. Gerald Malloy Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
MALLOYG@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6148 (803) 212-6124 |
Clarendon County
Sen. John C. Land III |
JCL@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6180 |
Colleton County
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
STR@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6056 |
Darlington County
Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr. Sen. Gerald Malloy |
SFI@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6640 (803) 212-6148 |
Dillon County
Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Kent M. Williams |
DE@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6008 |
Dorchester County
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. Sen. Randy Scott |
STR@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org SCOTTR@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6024 |
Edgefield County
Sen. A. Shane Massey |
shanemassey@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6000 |
Fairfield County
Sen. Linda H. Short |
LHS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6148 |
Florence County
Sen. John C. Land III Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr. Sen. J. Yancey McGill Sen. Kent M. Williams |
JCL@scsenate.org SFI@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6180 (803) 212-6640 (803) 212-6132 (803) 212-6008 |
Georgetown County
Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. J. Yancey McGill |
CLEARYR@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6132 |
Greenville County
Sen. Ralph Anderson Sen. Michael L. Fair Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. Sen. David L. Thomas Sen. Lewis R. Vaughn
Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III
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RA@scsenate.org FAIRM@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org SBI@scsenate.org LRV@scsenate.org SAG@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6108 (803) 212-6420 (803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6240 (803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6230 |
Greenwood County
Sen. John W. Drummond Sen. William H. O'Dell
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PTE@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6040 |
Hampton County
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
JWM@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6056 |
Horry County
Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. J. Yancey McGill Sen. Luke A. Rankin |
CLEARYR@scsenate.org DE@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org LR@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6132 (803) 212-6132 |
Jasper County
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney
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CCP@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6056 |
Kershaw County
Sen. Joel Lourie Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
JBL@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6124 |
Lancaster County
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
SFG@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6330 (803) 212-6124 |
Laurens County
Sen. John W. Drummond Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III |
PTE@scsenate.org SAG@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6230 |
Lee County
Sen. Phil P. Leventis Sen. Gerald Malloy |
PL@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6148 |
Lexington County
Sen. John E. Courson Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer Sen. John M. "Jake" Knotts, Jr. Sen. Nikki G. Setzler |
EDU@scsenate.org CROMERR@scsenate.org SIV@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6250 (803) 212-6040 (803) 212-6350 (803) 212-6140 |
Marion County
Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Kent M. Williams |
DE@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6008 |
Marlboro County
Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Gerald Malloy Sen. Kent M. Williams |
DE@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6148 (803) 212-6008 |
McCormick County
Sen. A. Shane Massey |
shanemassey@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6000 |
Newberry County
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer |
CROMERR@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6040 |
Oconee County
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander |
SGE@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6220 |
Orangeburg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. |
CBH@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6140 (803) 212-6056 |
Pickens County
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander Sen. Larry A. Martin |
SGE@scsenate.org SRU@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6220 (803) 212-6340 |
Richland County
Sen. John E. Courson Sen. Darrell Jackson Sen. Joel Lourie Sen. Kay Patterson |
EDU@scsenate.org DJ1@scsenate.org JBL@scsenate.org KAY@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6250 (803) 212-6048 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6048 |
Saluda County
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer Sen. A. Shane Massey Sen. Nikki G. Setzler |
CROMERR@scsenate.org shanemassey@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6040 (803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6140 |
Spartanburg County
Sen. John D. Hawkins Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. Sen. Glenn G. Reese Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. |
DH@scsenate.org MED@scsenate.org
GR@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6008 (803) 212-6430 (803) 212-6108 (803) 212-6032 |
Sumter County
Sen. John C. Land III Sen. Phil P. Leventis |
JCL@scsenate.org PL@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6180 (803) 212-6000 |
Union County
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. Sen. Linda H. Short (Mrs. Paul) |
MED@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org LHS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6430 (803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6148 |
Williamsburg County
Sen. J. Yancey McGill |
JYM@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6132 |
York County
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory Sen. Robert W. Hayes, Jr. Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. Sen. Linda H. Short |
SFG@scsenate.org set@scsenate.org MED@scsenate.org LHS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6330 (803) 212-6410 (803) 212-6430 (803) 212-6148 |
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*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***
Attention Concealed Weapon Permit (CWP) holders!
20 May 2008
It is crunch time for H. 3212, the concealed weapon permit (CWP) recognition/reciprocity bill that has been awaiting Senate action since March 26, 2008, when the
House refused to concur with the Senate amendment just as GrassRoots GunRights asked them to refuse to do.
The Senate version of H. 3212 is completely unacceptable to gun owners. GrassRoots GunRights provided a detailed analysis of the Senate amendment to H. 3212
to every member of the House in a letter dated March 24, 2008. The GrassRoots analysis - which is repeated below - exposes exactly why the Senate amendment
would make South Carolina CWP law worse than existing law. Interestingly, the Senate amendment would change the law so drastically that South Carolina could
not even get reciprocity with itself! The Senate version of H. 3212 should be opposed by all pro gun rights supporters!
Multiple independent practicing pro gun rights attorneys have read the GrassRoots analysis of the Senate version of H. 3212, and all have
agreed the GrassRoots analysis is legally sound (their letters of agreement can be found on the GrassRoots web site). Not a single
independent practicing pro gun rights attorney has found fault with the GrassRoots analysis of H. 3212.
Read the rest of the story here.
*** ACTION STEPS: ***
- Email every senator who represents people from the county in which you live. Tell these politicians that "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on H. 3212!"
The pro gun House is listening to GrassRoots GunRights, but the anti gun Senate is pushing a terrible bill. Politicians need to know GrassRoots GunRights speaks
for gun owners in South Carolina, or else you will get the Senate version of H. 3212. Contact information is below.
- Call your senator and tell them "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on H. 3212!" Use the Senate switchboard (803) 212-6200, or use the individual
office numbers listed below.
- Contact Sen. Knotts and let him know how you feel about his betrayal of gun owners. His email is SIV@scsenate.org
and his office phone number is (803) 212-6350.
Abbeville County
Sen. John W. Drummond Sen. William H. O'Dell |
PTE@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6040 |
Aiken County
Sen. W. Greg Ryberg Sen. A. Shane Massey Sen. Nikki G. Setzler |
SLC@scsenate.org shanemassey@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6320 (803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6140 |
Allendale County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto |
CBH@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 |
Anderson County
Sen. Kevin L. Bryant Sen. William H. O'Dell |
BRYANTK@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6024 (803) 212-6040 |
Bamberg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. |
CBH@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 (803) 212-6056 |
Barnwell County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto |
CBH@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 |
Beaufort County
Sen. Catherine C. Ceips Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
CEIPS@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6056 |
Berkeley County
Sen. Paul G. Campbell, Jr. Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms |
PaulCampbell@scsenate.org CAMPSEN@scsenate.org STR@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6400 |
Calhoun County
Sen. John C. Land III
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JCL@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6180 |
Charleston County
Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. Robert Ford Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms Sen. Glenn F. McConnell
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney Sen. Randy Scott |
CAMPSEN@scsenate.org CLEARYR@scsenate.org RIF@scsenate.org STR@scsenate.org SJU@scsenate.org
CCP@scsenate.org SCOTTR@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6124 (803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6610 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6024 |
Cherokee County
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. |
MED@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6430 |
Chester County
Sen. Linda H. Short |
LHS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6148 |
Chesterfield County
Sen. Gerald Malloy Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
MALLOYG@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6148 (803) 212-6124 |
Clarendon County
Sen. John C. Land III |
JCL@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6180 |
Colleton County
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
STR@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6056 |
Darlington County
Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr. Sen. Gerald Malloy |
SFI@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6640 (803) 212-6148 |
Dillon County
Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Kent M. Williams |
DE@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6008 |
Dorchester County
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. Sen. Randy Scott |
STR@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org SCOTTR@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6024 |
Edgefield County
Sen. A. Shane Massey |
shanemassey@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6000 |
Fairfield County
Sen. Linda H. Short |
LHS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6148 |
Florence County
Sen. John C. Land III Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr. Sen. J. Yancey McGill Sen. Kent M. Williams |
JCL@scsenate.org SFI@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6180 (803) 212-6640 (803) 212-6132 (803) 212-6008 |
Georgetown County
Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. J. Yancey McGill |
CLEARYR@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6132 |
Greenville County
Sen. Ralph Anderson Sen. Michael L. Fair Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. Sen. David L. Thomas Sen. Lewis R. Vaughn
Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III
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RA@scsenate.org FAIRM@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org SBI@scsenate.org LRV@scsenate.org SAG@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6108 (803) 212-6420 (803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6240 (803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6230 |
Greenwood County
Sen. John W. Drummond Sen. William H. O'Dell
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PTE@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6040 |
Hampton County
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
JWM@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6056 |
Horry County
Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. J. Yancey McGill Sen. Luke A. Rankin |
CLEARYR@scsenate.org DE@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org LR@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6132 (803) 212-6132 |
Jasper County
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney
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CCP@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6056 |
Kershaw County
Sen. Joel Lourie Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
JBL@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6124 |
Lancaster County
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
SFG@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6330 (803) 212-6124 |
Laurens County
Sen. John W. Drummond Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III |
PTE@scsenate.org SAG@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6230 |
Lee County
Sen. Phil P. Leventis Sen. Gerald Malloy |
PL@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6148 |
Lexington County
Sen. John E. Courson Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer Sen. John M. "Jake" Knotts, Jr. Sen. Nikki G. Setzler |
EDU@scsenate.org CROMERR@scsenate.org SIV@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6250 (803) 212-6040 (803) 212-6350 (803) 212-6140 |
Marion County
Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Kent M. Williams |
DE@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6008 |
Marlboro County
Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Gerald Malloy Sen. Kent M. Williams |
DE@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6148 (803) 212-6008 |
McCormick County
Sen. A. Shane Massey |
shanemassey@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6000 |
Newberry County
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer |
CROMERR@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6040 |
Oconee County
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander |
SGE@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6220 |
Orangeburg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. |
CBH@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6140 (803) 212-6056 |
Pickens County
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander Sen. Larry A. Martin |
SGE@scsenate.org SRU@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6220 (803) 212-6340 |
Richland County
Sen. John E. Courson Sen. Darrell Jackson Sen. Joel Lourie Sen. Kay Patterson |
EDU@scsenate.org DJ1@scsenate.org JBL@scsenate.org KAY@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6250 (803) 212-6048 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6048 |
Saluda County
Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer Sen. A. Shane Massey Sen. Nikki G. Setzler |
CROMERR@scsenate.org shanemassey@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6040 (803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6140 |
Spartanburg County
Sen. John D. Hawkins Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. Sen. Glenn G. Reese Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. |
DH@scsenate.org MED@scsenate.org
GR@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6008 (803) 212-6430 (803) 212-6108 (803) 212-6032 |
Sumter County
Sen. John C. Land III Sen. Phil P. Leventis |
JCL@scsenate.org PL@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6180 (803) 212-6000 |
Union County
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. Sen. Linda H. Short (Mrs. Paul) |
MED@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org LHS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6430 (803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6148 |
Williamsburg County
Sen. J. Yancey McGill |
JYM@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6132 |
York County
Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory Sen. Robert W. Hayes, Jr. Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. Sen. Linda H. Short |
SFG@scsenate.org set@scsenate.org MED@scsenate.org LHS@scsenate.org
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(803) 212-6330 (803) 212-6410 (803) 212-6430 (803) 212-6148 |
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*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***
Attention Concealed Weapon Permit (CWP) holders!
29 April 2008
Your right to carry in other states is under attack! If you want to be able to legally carry in 30+ states, then you need to act NOW! If you want to be able to carry in even fewer
states than you can now, then just sit back and ignore this Action Alert.
GrassRoots GunRights analyzed the Senate amendment to H. 3212 and exposed in detail how the Sen. Jake Knotts amendment would make SC CWP reciprocity law
WORSE than existing law. GrassRoots sent a detailed analysis of H. 3212 to every member of the SC House of Representatives, which you can read
here.
But, it is not just GrassRoots GunRights that has analyzed H. 3212 and found it to be worse than existing law. Pro gun rights attorneys practicing law in South Carolina say
the same thing!
J. Todd Kincannon [bio] is a pro gun attorney practicing in Columbia, SC.
Mr. Kincannon
wrote the GrassRoots GunRights amicus brief in the D.C. vs. Heller case. Mr.
Kincannon wrote a letter stating, "I entirely agree with your conclusion that the Senate amendment to the CWP reciprocity bill is far too narrow." Mr. Kincannon
acknowledged the GrassRoots analysis of H. 3212 is correct and that the Senate amendment is so poorly written that South Carolina would not qualify for reciprocity
with itself. You can read the entire Kincannon letter here.
Stephen F. Shaw [bio] is a pro gun attorney practicing in Greenville, SC.
Mr. Shaw wrote a
letter stating, "I completely agree with Dr. Butler's analysis and proposed language
dated March 12, 2008." Mr. Shaw acknowledged the GrassRoots analysis of H. 3212 is correct and that the Senate amendment is so poorly written that South Carolina
would not qualify for reciprocity with itself. You can read the entire Shaw letter
here.
Larry Salley is a pro gun attorney practicing in Lexington, SC. Mr. Salley wrote an email wherein he stated, "I've reviewed H. 3212, and I have a problem. It is so
ambiguous, that it could be turned against us. My immediate problem is that there is no clear 'definitions' in the terms used in the bill. Keep in mind that whenever a
liberal Court can interpret a law against a gunowner ... it will be interpreted against us." The GrassRoots analysis of H. 3212 also pointed out the problem with how
SLED and the courts would interpret the law after considering how the definitions section related to the poorly drafted Senate amendment.
Unfortunately, Sen. Jake Knotts teamed up with anti gun Sen. Ralph Anderson and worked to destroy the CWP recognition (a CWP recognition bill means SC would
honor a CWP from another state) bill passed by the House. The Senate amended H. 3212 with the Knotts/Anderson proposed amendment and thereby turned a good
pro gun CWP recognition bill into a horrible anti gun CWP reciprocity (a CWP reciprocity bill means SC would only honor a limited number of CWPs from other states)
bill that is worse than existing law.
But, Sen. Knotts' efforts to kill a good CWP recognition bill this year should not surprise anyone who has been watching the Senate for the last few years. In 2006, Sen.
Knotts led the fight to kill a similar CWP recognition bill.
What is truly disturbing in all of this is that the NRA is supporting the Senate amendment and has been actively promoting Sen. Knotts as a friend of gun owners even as
Sen. Knotts is trying to kill a good CWP recognition bill AGAIN. The NRA even wrote of how a good CWP reciprocity bill was killed in 2006, and failed to point out
that it was Sen. Knotts who killed it.
Thankfully, the House rejected the Senate amendment and insisted upon a CWP recognition bill. H. 3212 will now go to a conference committee. A conference
committee has three members of the Senate and three members of the House meet to decide how to work out the differences between the House and Senate versions of a bill.
There are two kinds of conference committees - one with free conference powers and one with no free conference powers.
A conference committee with no free conference powers must choose to adopt either the Senate version or the House version. No compromises are allowed. The
Senate version of H. 3212 is completely unacceptable to gun owners since it would make our SC CWP law worse than existing law. The House version of H. 3212
is unacceptable to Sen. Knotts, and unfortunately many senators listen to Sen. Knotts and will do as Sen. Knotts wants them to do on gun bills. Thus, H. 3212 is
dead in conference committee unless gun owners make Sen. Knotts change his mind. The only thing that would make Sen. Knotts change his mind is to make him
think he will lose his primary election to Katrina Shealy, a CWP holder who supports H. 3212 as it came from the House.
A conference committee with free conference powers is allowed to try to compromise and amend the bill into one that is acceptable to both the House and the Senate.
The only way that the GrassRoots proposed amendment could possibly be adopted is if both the House and the Senate granted free conference powers to the conference
committee. While GrassRoots prefers to see a pure CWP recognition bill passed, the GrassRoots proposed amendment to H. 3212 would get SC CWP reciprocity with
more states than we have reciprocity with now.
*** ACTION STEPS: ***
- Email every senator and representative who represents people from the county in which you live. Since the NRA is asking people to support the Senate version of
H. 3212, you need to tell these politicians that "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on H. 3212!" The pro gun House is listening to GrassRoots GunRights, but the anti
gun Senate is listening to the NRA. Politicians need to know GrassRoots GunRights speaks for gun owners in South Carolina, or else you will get the Senate version of
H. 3212. Contact information is below. (You can send individual emails using the email addresses in the middle column, or you can send one email to the entire
county delegation by clicking on the county name in the first column. Certain email programs such as Gmail may insert a "+" sign in front of the email addresses
when clicking on the county delegation in the first column. You may need to delete any symbols inserted by your email provider.)
- Call your senator and representative and tell them "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on H. 3212!" Use the Senate switchboard (803) 212-6200, and the House
switchboard (803) 734-2402, or use the individual office numbers listed below.
- Contact Sen. Knotts and let him know how you feel about his betrayal of gun owners. His email is SIV@scsenate.org and his office phone number is (803) 212-6350.
Abbeville County
Rep. Paul Agnew Rep. Michael W. "Mike" Gambrell Rep. Michael A. Pitts Sen. John W. Drummond
Sen. William H. O'Dell |
AgnewP@schouse.org GambrellM@schouse.org PittsM@schouse.org PTE@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2993 (803) 734-2947 (803) 734-2830 (803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6040 |
Aiken County
Rep. William "Bill" Clyburn Rep. Robert S. "Skipper" Perry, Jr. Rep. Donald C. Smith Rep. J. Roland Smith
Rep. Kit Spires Rep. James E. "Jim" Stewart Sen. W. Greg Ryberg Sen. A. Shane Massey Sen. Nikki G.
Setzler |
WC@schouse.org RSP@schouse.org DCS@schouse.org JS@schouse.org SpiresK@schouse.org jim@stewartbuilders.com
SLC@scsenate.org shanemassey@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3033 (803) 734-3032 (803) 734-3031 (803) 734-3114 (803) 734-3010 (803) 734-3034 (803) 212-6320
(803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6140 |
Allendale County
Rep. Lonnie Hosey Sen. C. Bradley Hutto |
LH1@schouse.org CBH@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2829 (803) 212-6140 |
Anderson County
Rep. Paul Agnew Rep. Don Carson Bowen Rep. Daniel T. Cooper Rep. Michael W. "Mike" Gambrell
Rep. Michael D. Thompson Rep. W. Brian White Sen. Kevin L. Bryant Sen. William H. O'Dell |
AgnewP@schouse.org BowenD@schouse.org HWM@schouse.org GambrellM@schouse.org MT@schouse.org WBW@schouse.org
BRYANTK@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2993 (803) 734-3038 (803) 734-3144 (803) 734-2947 (803) 734-3014 (803) 734-3113 (803) 212-6024
(803) 212-6040 |
Bamberg County
Rep. Bakari T. Sellers Sen. C. Bradley Hutto Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. |
SellersB@schouse.org CBH@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3003 (803) 212-6140 (803) 212-6056 |
Barnwell County
Rep. Lonnie Hosey Rep. Bakari T. Sellers Sen. C. Bradley Hutto |
LH1@schouse.org SellersB@schouse.org CBH@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2829 (803) 734-3003 (803) 212-6140 |
Beaufort County
Rep. Curtis Brantley Rep. Richard Chalk Rep. Shannon S. Erickson Rep. William G. "Bill" Herbkersman
Rep. Kenneth F. Hodges Sen. Catherine C. Ceips Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
BrantleyC@schouse.org ChalkR@schouse.org shannonerickson@schouse.org HerbkersmanB@schouse.org HodgesK@schouse.org
CEIPS@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2965 (803) 734-3067 (803) 734-3261 (803) 734-3063 (803) 734-3062 (803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6056 |
Berkeley County
Rep. Thomas M. "Tom" Dantzler Rep. Joseph H. Jefferson, Jr. Rep. Harry B. "Chip" Limehouse III Rep.
James H. Merrill Rep. C. David Umphlett, Jr. Sen. Paul G. Campbell, Jr. Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms |
TMD@schouse.org JeffersonJ@schouse.org HBL@schouse.org JM1@schouse.org UmphlettD@schouse.org
PaulCampbell@scsenate.org CAMPSEN@scsenate.org STR@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2949 (803) 734-2936 (803) 734-2977 (803) 734-3138 (803) 734-2946 (803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6400 |
Calhoun County
Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr. Sen. John C. Land III
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HLO@schouse.org JCL@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2998 (803) 212-6180 |
Charleston County
Rep. Floyd Breeland Rep. Robert L. Brown Rep. Thomas M. "Tom" Dantzler Rep. Ben A. Hagood, Jr.
Rep. Robert W. Harrell, Jr., Speaker Rep. Heyward G. Hutson Rep. Harry B. "Chip" Limehouse III Rep. David J.
Mack III Rep. James H. Merrill Rep. Vida O. Miller Rep. Wallace B. Scarborough Rep. Leonidas
E. "Leon" Stavrinakis Rep. J. Seth Whipper Rep. Annette D. Young Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. Robert Ford
Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms Sen. Glenn F. McConnell Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney Sen. Randy Scott |
FB@schouse.org RLB@schouse.org TMD@schouse.org HagoodB@schouse.org HSP@schouse.org heywardhutson@schouse.org
HBL@schouse.org DJM@schouse.org JM1@schouse.org VOM@schouse.org WBS@schouse.org StavL@schouse.org
JSW@schouse.org ADY@schouse.org CAMPSEN@scsenate.org CLEARYR@scsenate.org RIF@scsenate.org STR@scsenate.org
SJU@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org SCOTTR@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2987 (803) 734-3170 (803) 734-2949 (803) 734-2950 (803) 734-3125 (803) 734-3239 (803) 734-2977 (803) 734-3192
(803) 734-3138 (803) 734-2957 (803) 734-2948 (803) 734-3039 (803) 734-3191 (803) 734-2953 (803) 212-6016 (803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6124 (803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6610 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6024 |
Cherokee County
Rep. Lanny F. Littlejohn Rep. Dennis Carroll Moss Rep. Olin R. Phillips Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. |
LFL@schouse.org MossD@schouse.org ORP@schouse.org MED@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3141 (803) 734-3073 (803) 734-2958 (803) 212-6430 |
Chester County
Rep. Creighton B. Coleman Rep. F. Gregory "Greg" Delleney, Jr. Rep. Dennis Carroll Moss Sen. Linda H. Short |
cbc@schouse.org fgd@schouse.org MossD@schouse.org LHS@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3140 (803) 734-3074 (803) 734-3073 (803) 212-6148 |
Chesterfield County
Rep. Douglas Jennings, Jr. Rep. James H. "Jay" Lucas Rep. Denny Woodall Neilson Rep. Ted Martin Vick Sen. Gerald Malloy
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
DJ@schouse.org JL@schouse.org DWN@schouse.org VickT@schouse.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3065 (803) 734-2961 (803) 734-3097 (803) 734-2999 (803) 212-6148 (803) 212-6124 |
Clarendon County
Rep. Cathy B. Harvin Rep. G. Murrell Smith, Jr. Sen. John C. Land III |
HarvinC@schouse.org GMS@schouse.org JCL@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3135 (803) 734-3042 (803) 212-6180 |
Colleton County
Rep. William K. Bowers Rep. Robert L. Brown Rep. Kenneth F. Hodges Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr.
Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
WKB@schouse.org RLB@schouse.org HodgesK@schouse.org STR@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2959 (803) 734-3170 (803) 734-3062 (803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6056 |
Darlington County
Rep. James H. "Jay" Lucas Rep. Denny Woodall Neilson Rep. Robert Quintin Williams Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr. Sen. Gerald Malloy |
JL@schouse.org DWN@schouse.org WilliamsR@schouse.org SFI@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2961 (803) 734-3097 (803) 734-3142 (803) 212-6640 (803) 212-6148 |
Dillon County
Rep. Jackie E. Hayes Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Kent M. Williams |
JH@schouse.org DE@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3099 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6008 |
Dorchester County
Rep. Robert W. Harrell, Jr., Speaker Rep. Heyward G. Hutson Re. Patsy Knight Rep. Annette D. Young Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. Sen. Randy Scott |
HSP@schouse.org heywardhutson@schouse.org KnightP@schouse.org ADY@schouse.org STR@scsenate.org
JWM@scsenate.org SCOTTR@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3125 (803) 734-3239 (803) 734-2960 (803) 734-2953 (803) 212-6400 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6024 |
Edgefield County
Rep. William "Bill" Clyburn Rep. Donald C. Smith Sen. A. Shane Massey |
WC@schouse.org DCS@schouse.org shanemassey@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3033 (803) 734-3031 (803) 212-6000 |
Fairfield County
Rep. Creighton B. Coleman Sen. Linda H. Short |
cbc@schouse.org LHS@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3140 (803) 212-6148 |
Florence County
Rep. Terry Alexander Rep. Lester P. Branham. Jr. Rep. Kristopher R. "Kris" Crawford Rep. Phillip Dean Lowe Rep.Robert Quintin Williams
Sen. John C. Land III Sen. Hugh K. Leatherman, Sr. Sen. J. Yancey McGill Sen. Kent M. Williams |
AlexanderT@schouse.org BranhamL@schouse.org CrawfordK@schouse.org LoweP@schouse.org WilliamsR@schouse.org
JCL@scsenate.org SFI@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3004 (803) 734-3002 (803) 734-2992 (803) 734-2975 (803) 734-3142 (803) 212-6180 (803) 212-6640 (803) 212-6132
(803) 212-6008 |
Georgetown County
Rep. Carl Anderson Rep. Vida O. Miller Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. J. Yancey McGill |
AndersonC@schouse.org VOM@schouse.org CLEARYR@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2933 (803) 734-2957 (803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6132 |
Greenville County
Rep. Karl B. Allen Rep. Bruce W. Bannister Rep. Eric Michael Bedingfield Rep. Harry F. Cato Rep. Glenn L. Hamilton
Rep. Gloria Arias Haskins Rep. Robert W. "Bob" Leach, Sr. Rep. Dwight A. Loftis Rep. Rex F. Rice Rep. Phillip W. Shoopman
Rep. Fletcher N. Smith, Jr. Rep. Garry R. Smith Rep.J. Adam Taylor Sen. Ralph Anderson Sen. Michael L. Fair
Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. Sen. David L. Thomas Sen. Lewis R. Vaughn Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III
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KBA@schouse.org BannisterB@schouse.org BedingfieldE@schouse.org HLC@schouse.org GLH@schouse.org
GAH@schouse.org RWL@schouse.org DAL@schouse.org RFR@schouse.org ShoopmanP@schouse.org FNS@schouse.org
SmithG@schouse.org at@schouse.org RA@scsenate.org FAIRM@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org SBI@scsenate.org
LRV@scsenate.org SAG@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3006 (803) 734-3009 (803) 734-2962 (803) 734-3015 (803) 734-3075 (803) 734-2978 (803) 734-3107
(803) 734-3101 (803) 734-3035 (803) 734-3072 (803) 734-3059 803) 734-3045 (803) 734-2990 (803) 212-6108 (803) 212-6420
(803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6240 (803) 212-6100 (803) 212-6230 |
Greenwood County
Rep. J. Anne Parks Rep. Lewis E. "Gene" Pinson Rep. Michael A. Pitts Sen. John W. Drummond Sen. William H. O'Dell
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JAP@schouse.org PinsonG@schouse.org PittsM@schouse.org PTE@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3069 (803) 734-2821 (803) 734-2830 (803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6040 |
Hampton County
Rep. William K. Bowers Rep. Curtis Brantley Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney |
BrantleyC@schouse.org WKB@schouse.org JWM@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2965 (803) 734-2959 (803) 212-6056 (803) 212-6056 |
Horry County
Rep. Liston D. Barfield Rep. Alan D. Clemmons Rep. Tracy R. Edge Rep. Nelson Hardwick Rep. Jackie E. Hayes
Rep. Thad T. Viers Rep. William D. Witherspoon Sen. Ray Cleary Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. J. Yancey McGill Sen. Luke A. Rankin |
LDB@schouse.org ClemmonsA@schouse.org TE@schouse.org HardwickN@schouse.org JH@schouse.org ViersT@schouse.org
WDW@schouse.org CLEARYR@scsenate.org DE@scsenate.org JYM@scsenate.org LR@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2968 (803) 734-2994 (803) 734-3013 (803) 734-2967 (803) 734-3099 (803) 734-3064 (803) 734-3022 (803) 212-6100
(803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6132 (803) 212-6132 |
Jasper County
Rep. Curtis Brantley Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney
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BrantleyC@schouse.org CCP@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-2965 (803) 212-6056 |
Kershaw County
Rep. William F. "Bill" Cotty Rep. Laurie Slade Funderburk Rep. James H. "Jay" Lucas Sen. Joel Lourie Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
WFC@schouse.org FunderburkL@schouse.org JL@schouse.org JBL@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-4851 (803) 734-3044 (803) 734-2961 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6124 |
Lancaster County
Rep. James H. "Jay" Lucas Rep. J. Michael "Mick" Mulvaney Rep. James M. "Jimmy" Neal Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory
Sen. Vincent A. Sheheen |
JL@schouse.org MulvaneyM@schouse.org jmn@schouse.org SFG@scsenate.org VS@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2961 (803) 734-2937 (803) 734-2976 (803) 212-6330 (803) 212-6124 |
Laurens County
Rep. Jeffrey D. "Jeff" Duncan Rep. J. Adam Taylor Rep. Michael A. Pitts Sen. John W. Drummond Sen. Daniel B. "Danny" Verdin III |
DuncanJ@schouse.org at@schouse.org PittsM@schouse.org PTE@scsenate.org SAG@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2974 (803) 734-2830 (803) 734-2990 (803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6230 |
Lee County
Rep. Grady A. Brown Sen. Phil P. Leventis Sen. Gerald Malloy |
GB@schouse.org PL@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2934 (803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6148 |
Lexington County
Rep. Nathan Ballentine Rep. Kenneth A. "Kenny" Bingham Rep. Marion B. Frye Rep. Nikki Randhawa Haley Rep. Chip Huggins
Rep. Walton J. McLeod Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr. Rep. Edward H. "Ted" Pitts, Jr. Rep. Lawrence Kit Spires Rep. McLain R. "Mac" Toole
Sen. John E. Courson Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer Sen. John M. "Jake" Knotts, Jr. Sen. Nikki G. Setzler |
BallentineN@schouse.org KAB@schouse.org MBF@schouse.org HaleyN@schouse.org ch@schouse.org WJM@schouse.org
HLO@schouse.org PittsT@schouse.org SpiresK@schouse.org TooleM@schouse.org EDU@scsenate.org CROMERR@scsenate.org
SIV@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2969 (803) 734-2988 (803) 734-3275 (803) 734-2970 (803) 734-2971 (803) 734-3276 (803) 734-2998
(803) 734-2972 (803) 734-3010 (803) 734-2973 (803) 212-6250 (803) 212-6040 (803) 212-6350 (803) 212-6140 |
Marion County
Rep. Terry Alexander Rep. James A. "Jim" Battle, Jr. Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Kent M. Williams |
AlexanderT@schouse.org jab@schouse.org DE@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3004 (803) 734-3001 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6008 |
Marlboro County
Rep. Douglas Jennings, Jr. Sen. Dick Elliott Sen. Gerald Malloy Sen. Kent M. Williams |
DJ@schouse.org DE@scsenate.org MALLOYG@scsenate.org WILLIAMSK@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3065 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6148 (803) 212-6008 |
McCormick County
Rep. J. Anne Parks Sen. A. Shane Massey |
JAP@schouse.org shanemassey@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3069 (803) 212-6000 |
Newberry County
Rep. Jeffrey D. "Jeff" Duncan Rep. Walton J. McLeod Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer |
DuncanJ@schouse.org WJM@schouse.org CROMERR@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2974 (803) 734-3276 (803) 212-6040 |
Oconee County
Rep. Don Carson Bowen Rep. William E. "Bill" Sandifer III Rep. William R. "Bill" Whitmire Sen. Thomas C. Alexander |
BowenD@schouse.org WES@schouse.org WhitmireW@schouse.org SGE@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3038 (803) 734-3109 (803) 734-3068 (803) 212-6220 |
Orangeburg County
Rep. Gilda Cobb-Hunter Rep. Jerry N. Govan, Jr. Rep. Harry L. Ott, Jr. Rep. Bakari T. Sellers Sen. C. Bradley Hutto
Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr. |
gch@schouse.org JNG@schouse.org HLO@schouse.org SellersB@schouse.org CBH@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2809 (803) 734-3012 (803) 734-2998 (803) 734-3003 (803) 212-6140 (803) 212-6056 |
Pickens County
Rep. David R. Hiott Rep. Phillip D. "Phil" Owens Rep. Rex F. Rice Rep. William E. "Bill" Sandifer III Rep. B. R. Skelton
Sen. Thomas C. Alexander Sen. Larry A. Martin |
HiottD@schouse.org owensp@schouse.org RFR@schouse.org WES@schouse.org SkeltonBR@schouse.org
SGE@scsenate.org SRU@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3323 (803) 734-3237 (803) 734-3035 (803) 734-3109 (803) 734-3036 (803) 212-6220 (803) 212-6340 |
Richland County
Rep. Dr. Jimmy C. Bales Rep. Nathan Ballentine Rep. Joan Brady Rep. William F. "Bill" Cotty Rep. James H. Harrison
Rep. Christopher Richard Hart Rep. Leon Howard Rep. Joseph H. Neal Rep. J. Todd Rutherford Rep. John L. Scott, Jr.
Rep. James E. Smith, Jr. Sen. John E. Courson Sen. Darrell Jackson Sen. Joel Lourie Sen. Kay Patterson |
JCB@schouse.org BallentineN@schouse.org BradyJ@schouse.org WFC@schouse.org HJU@schouse.org HartC@schouse.org
LH@schouse.org JN@schouse.org JTR@schouse.org JLS@schouse.org RepSmith@JamesSmith.org EDU@scsenate.org
DJ1@scsenate.org JBL@scsenate.org KAY@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3058 (803) 734-2969 (803) 734-3027 (803) 734-4851 (803) 734-3120 (803) 734-3061 (803) 734-3046
(803) 734-2804 (803) 734-9441 (803) 734-2963 (803) 734-2997 (803) 212-6250 (803) 212-6048 (803) 212-6116 (803) 212-6048 |
Saluda County
Rep. Marion B. Frye Sen. Ronnie W. Cromer Sen. A. Shane Massey Sen. Nikki G. Setzler |
MBF@schouse.org CROMERR@scsenate.org shanemassey@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3275 (803) 212-6040 (803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6140 |
Spartanburg County
Rep. Michael A. Anthony Rep. G. Ralph Davenport, Jr. Rep. R. Keith Kelly Rep. Lanny F. Littlejohn Rep. Joseph G. Mahaffey
Rep. Harold Mitchell, Jr. Rep. W. Douglas "Doug" Smith Rep. Scott F. Talley Rep. Robert E. "Bob" Walker Sen. John D. Hawkins
Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. Sen. Glenn G. Reese Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. |
AnthonyM@schouse.org GRD@schouse.org KellyK@schouse.org LFL@schouse.org MahaffeyJ@schouse.org
MITCHELLH@schouse.org SPT@schouse.org SFT@schouse.org REW@schouse.org DH@scsenate.org MED@scsenate.org
GR@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org |
(803) 734-3060 (803) 734-3098 (803) 734-3008 (803) 734-3141 (803) 734-3028 (803) 734-6638 (803) 734-2701
(803) 734-3005 (803) 734-3053 (803) 212-6008 (803) 212-6430 (803) 212-6108 (803) 212-6032 |
Sumter County
Rep. Grady A. Brown Rep. Phillip Dean Lowe Rep. Joseph H. Neal Rep. G. Murrell Smith. Jr. Rep. J. David Weeks
Sen. John C. Land III Sen. Phil P. Leventis |
GB@schouse.org LoweP@schouse.org JN@schouse.org GMS@schouse.org JDW@schouse.org JCL@scsenate.org
PL@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2934 (803) 734-2975 (803) 734-2804 (803) 734-3042 (803) 734-3102 (803) 212-6180 (803) 212-6000 |
Union County
Rep. Michael A. Anthony Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr. Sen. James H. "Jim" Ritchie, Jr. Sen. Linda H. Short (Mrs. Paul) |
AnthonyM@schouse.org MED@scsenate.org JHR@scsenate.org LHS@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-3060 (803) 212-6430 (803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6148 |
Williamsburg County
Rep. Carl Anderson Rep. Cathy B. Harvin Rep. Kenneth Kennedy Sen. J. Yancey McGill |
AndersonC@schouse.org HarvinC@schouse.org KK@schouse.org JYM@scsenate.org
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(803) 734-2933 (803) 734-3135 (803) 734-2986 (803) 212-6132 |
York County
Rep. F. Gregory "Greg" Delleney, Jr. Rep. Carl Lee Gullick Rep. Herb Kirsh Rep. Bessie Moody-Lawrence Rep. Dennis Carroll Moss
Rep. J. Michael "Mick" Mulvaney Rep. J. Gary Simrill Sen. Chauncey K. Gregory Sen. Robert W. Hayes, Jr. Sen. Harvey S. Peeler, Jr.
Sen. Linda H. Short |
fgd@schouse.org GullickC@schouse.org NO EMAIL bam@schouse.org MossD@schouse.org
MulvaneyM@schouse.org JGS@schouse.org SFG@scsenate.org set@scsenate.org MED@scsenate.org LHS@scsenate.org
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*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***
H. 3212 NEEDS YOUR HELP!
24 March 2008
ACT NOW! H. 3212 is now in YOUR hands!
Your calls and emails last week resulted in a slightly improved bill, but the Senate didn't properly fix the bill. The SC Senate failed to remove their amendment to H. 3212 and
restore it to a recognition bill before sending it back the the SC House for their approval. In its current form, H. 3212 is still so poorly written that South Carolina
could not even get reciprocity with itself! Below is the letter GrassRoots is providing to each member of the SC House of Representatives.
*** ACTION STEPS: *** (Scroll down for a contact list of your legislators.)
- Call EACH Representative from your county first thing in the morning on Tuesday. Tell them "I'm calling about H. 3212. GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!"
- Email EACH Representative from your county and send the message "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" (Cut and paste "GrassRoots
GunRights speaks for me!" in both the subject line and the body of the text.)
The Honorable Robert W. Harrell, Jr.
South Carolina House of Representatives
P.O. Box 11867
Columbia, SC 29211
The concealed weapon permit (CWP) recognition bill - H. 3212 - passed by the House last year was amended in the Senate. The Senate amendment turns H. 3212 into a horrible
bill that could easily make CWP reciprocity with South Carolina worse rather than better. The Senate amendment would change things so drastically that South Carolina could not
even get reciprocity with itself!
The Senate amended H. 3212 to read as follows:
"(N) Valid out-of-state permits to carry concealable weapons held by a resident of a reciprocal state must be honored by this State
, provided,
that the reciprocal state
requires an applicant to successfully pass a criminal background check and a course in firearm training and safety. A resident of a reciprocal state carrying a concealable
weapon in South Carolina is subject to and must abide by the laws of South Carolina regarding concealable weapons.
SLED shall make a determination as to those states which have permit issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards contained in this article and shall
maintain and publish a list of those states as the states with which South Carolina has reciprocity." |
The logical reasoning that follows below will prove why H. 3212 is a terrible bill as amended by the Senate and why it needs to be amended to actually accomplish that which the NRA
inaccurately claims it does now. Then, GrassRoots will provide alternative language to amend H. 3212 so that H. 3212 will actually do what it is claimed that it does now.
Words have meaning, which is why they are so important in legal matters. Words are so important that the law frequently defines a word as it is to be used in a particular article
of law rather than leaving the definition of the word to common usage, which could allow for different interpretations.
The South Carolina "Law Abiding Citizens Self-Defense Act of 1996" defined certain words. Those definitions can not be ignored when considering amendments to the law. A
definition critical to a proper understanding of the impact of the Senate amendment to H. 3212 can found in Section 23-31-210(5), which reads as follows:
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"Proof of training" means an original document or certified copy of the document supplied by an applicant that certifies that he is either:
(a) a person who, within three years before filing an application, has successfully completed a basic or advanced handgun education course offered by a state, county, or
municipal law enforcement agency or a nationally recognized organization that promotes gun safety. This education course must be a minimum of eight hours and must
include, but is not limited to:
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(i) information on the statutory and case law of this State relating to handguns and to the use of deadly force;
(ii) information on handgun use and safety;
(iii) information on the proper storage practice for handguns with an emphasis on storage practices that reduces the possibility of accidental injury to a child; and
(iv) the actual firing of the handgun in the presence of the instructor;
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(b) an instructor certified by the National Rifle Association or another SLED-approved competent national organization that promotes the safe use of handguns;
(c) a person who can demonstrate to the Director of SLED or his designee that he has a proficiency in both the use of handguns and state laws pertaining to handguns;
(d) an active duty police handgun instructor;
(e) a person who has a SLED-certified or approved competitive handgun shooting classification; or
(f) a member of the active or reserve military, or a member of the National Guard who has had handgun training in the previous three years.
SLED shall promulgate regulations containing general guidelines for courses and qualifications for instructors which would satisfy the requirements of this item. For
purposes of subitems (a) and (b), "proof of training" is not satisfied unless the organization and its instructors meet or exceed the guidelines and qualifications
contained in the regulations promulgated by SLED pursuant to this item. |
Existing South Carolina law - Section 23-31-215(A)(5) - allows a person to qualify for a CWP if that person can satisfy just one of the six legal alternatives for
"proof of training" found in Section 23-31-210(5) above. A "course in firearm training and safety" is only one of those alternatives, and what constitutes a proper
"course in firearm training and safety" is further defined in Section 23-31-210(5)(a) as a minimum eight (8) hour class.
Existing South Carolina law Section 23-31-215(N) states:
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Valid out-of-state permits to carry concealable weapons held by a resident of a reciprocal state must be honored by this State. SLED shall make a determination
as to those states which have permit issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards contained in this article and shall maintain and publish a list of those
states as the states with which South Carolina has reciprocity. |
As can be readily seen from the above cited SC law, existing SC law allows for CWP reciprocity with states that do not necessarily require a "course in firearm
training and safety." All that is required under existing SC law is that another state have CWP "issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards contained
in this article," and SC legally allows for five alternatives that do not require a "course in firearm training and safety." Thus, if the Senate amendment to H. 3212 is
enacted into law, South Carolina would not be eligible for CWP reciprocity with itself because South Carolina does not necessarily require a "course in firearm
training and safety" to obtain a CWP as the Senate amendment would mandate. Does the Senate really fear NRA certified instructors, active duty police
handgun instructors, or members of the active
or reserve military or members of the National Guard who have had handgun training in the previous three years who qualified for a CWP in their home state?
GrassRoots will propose an amendment to H. 3212 to remedy this shortcoming that was overlooked, misunderstood, and denied by the NRA.
There is no excuse for using ambiguous language to draft legislation when clear and concise language would ensure the intent of the legislature was codified.
Otherwise, the ambiguous language could lead to years of litigation at best, and possibly great bodily harm or death to those denied the ability to properly
defend themselves.
The NRA has claimed the Senate amendment will allow CWP reciprocity with states that do not require an eight (8) hour "course in firearm training and safety.
" Unfortunately, that is not clear from the language used in the Senate amendment.
Going back to the definitions section of the South Carolina "Law Abiding Citizens Self-Defense Act of 1996," an eight (8) hour minimum class time is required
to satisfy the "proof of training" requirement when the classroom alternative is chosen for "proof of training." The Senate amendment to H. 3212 does nothing to
change the definition of what constitutes a proper education course. This failure makes for an ambiguous situation.
If SLED or a court was asked to decide what constituted a proper "course in firearm training and safety," it could easily be argued that the definitions section of
the South Carolina "Law Abiding Citizens Self-Defense Act of 1996" controlled, which would mean a minimum eight (8) hour class. Why leave things to chance?
Why leave things ambiguous? Why not say exactly what is meant?
It is important to note the NRA already made errors in drafting the Senate amendment to H. 3212 on March 13, 2008. Only after GrassRoots exposed those
drafting errors in a letter to the Senate dated March 17, 2008, did the NRA then draft a new amendment to remedy one of the errors. Over the years, GrassRoots has proven
itself as the organization best able to properly draft legislation without errors.
GrassRoots requests that the House reject the Senate amendment to H. 3212 and return H. 3212 back to the CWP recognition bill passed last year. But, if the
House is determined to pass H. 3212 even as a CWP reciprocity bill, then the Senate amendment still needs to be rejected because it does not accomplish
that which it is claimed it accomplishes. The Senate amendment to H. 3212 needs to be replaced with a GrassRoots proposed amendment that will accomplish
that which the NRA wrongly claims the Senate amendment will do.
GrassRoots proposes the following language to replace the Senate amendment to H. 3212:
"(N) Valid out-of-state permits to carry concealable weapons held by a resident of a reciprocal state must be honored by this
State, provided, the reciprocal state requires an applicant to successfully pass a criminal background check and either 1) any course in firearm training and
safety accepted by the reciprocal state, or 2) other proof of training that would be accepted under South Carolina law. A resident of a reciprocal state carrying a
concealable weapon in South Carolina is subject to and must abide by the laws of South Carolina regarding concealable weapons. SLED shall
make a determination as to those states which have permit issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards contained in this article and shall
maintain and publish a list of those states as the states with which South Carolina has reciprocity."
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The GrassRoots proposed amendment makes it clear the SC CWP reciprocity law should not be interpreted using the definitions section of the South Carolina
CWP law, and the GrassRoots proposed amendment will thus ensure the SC CWP law will allow less than an eight (8) hour minimum class time to satisfy the
reciprocity requirement. This is exactly what people are now being told the Senate amendment will do, so this should not be a controversial change.
The GrassRoots proposed amendment will also allow for CWP reciprocity with states like South Carolina that allow alternatives to a "course in firearm training
and safety" to satisfy the "proof of training" requirement, i.e., NRA certified instructors, active duty police handgun instructors, or members of the active or
reserve military or members of the National Guard who have had handgun training in the previous three years who qualified for a CWP in their home state. This change will allow
reciprocity with Florida, which allows for issuance of a CWP upon presentation of "evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in
organized shooting competition or military service.
If you have any questions concerning H. 3212 or the effects of the intricacies of the various sections of law upon CWP reciprocity, please contact me at XXX.XXX.XXXX.
Robert D. Butler, J.D.
Vice President
GrassRoots GunRights of SC
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*** ACTION STEPS: ***
- Call EACH Representative from your county first thing in the morning on Tuesday. Tell them "I'm calling about H. 3212. GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!"
- Email EACH Representative from your county and send the message "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" (Cut and paste "GrassRoots
GunRights speaks for me!" in both the subject line and the body of the text.)
Thank you for doing your part as a gun rights activist!
Bill Rentiers
Executive Officer
GrassRoots GunRights of SC
ExecOfficer@SCFirearms.org
803-233-9295
Abbeville County
Rep. Paul Agnew, District 11 Rep. Michael W. "Mike" Gambrell, District 7 Rep. Michael A. Pitts, District 14 |
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Aiken County
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Allendale County
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Anderson County
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Rep. Michael D. Thompson, District 9 Rep. W. Brian White, District 6 |
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Bamberg County
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SellersB@schouse.org |
(803) 734-3003 |
Barnwell County
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LH1@schouse.org SellersB@schouse.org |
(803) 734-2829 (803) 734-3003 |
Beaufort County
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Berkeley County
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Rep. James H. Merrill,
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(803) 734-2949 (803) 734-2936 (803) 734-2977 (803) 734-3138 (803) 734-2946 |
Calhoun County
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Charleston County
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Mack III, District 109 Rep. James H. Merrill, District 99 Rep. Vida O. Miller, District 108 Rep. Wallace B. Scarborough, District 115 Rep. Leonidas
E. "Leon" Stavrinakis, District 119 Rep. J. Seth Whipper, District 113 Rep. Annette D. Young, District 98 |
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Cherokee County
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Chester County
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Chesterfield County
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Clarendon County
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Colleton County
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Darlington County
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Dillon County
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(803) 734-3099 |
Dorchester County
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(803) 734-3125 (803) 734-3239 (803) 734-2960 (803) 734-2953 |
Edgefield County
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Fairfield County
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(803) 734-3140 |
Florence County
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Rep.Robert Quintin Williams, District 62 |
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Georgetown County
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Greenville County
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Greenwood County
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Hampton County
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Horry County
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Jasper County
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Kershaw County
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Lancaster County
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Laurens County
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Lee County
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(803) 734-2934 |
Lexington County
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District 87
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Marion County
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(803) 734-3004 (803) 734-3001 |
Marlboro County
Rep. Douglas Jennings, Jr., District 54 |
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(803) 734-3065 |
McCormick County
Rep. J. Anne Parks, District 12 |
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(803) 734-3069 |
Newberry County
Rep. Jeffrey D. "Jeff" Duncan, District 15 Rep. Walton J. McLeod, District 40 |
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(803) 734-2974 (803) 734-3276 |
Oconee County
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(803) 734-3038 (803) 734-3109 (803) 734-3068 |
Orangeburg County
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gch@schouse.org JNG@schouse.org HLO@schouse.org SellersB@schouse.org |
(803) 734-2809 (803) 734-3012 (803) 734-2998 (803) 734-3003 |
Pickens County
Rep. David R. Hiott, District 4 Rep. Phillip D. "Phil" Owens, District 5 Rep. Rex F. Rice, District 26 Rep. William E. "Bill" Sandifer III, District 2
Rep. B. R. Skelton, District 3 |
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(803) 734-3323 (803) 734-3237 (803) 734-3035 (803) 734-3109 (803) 734-3036 |
Richland County
Rep. Dr. Jimmy C. Bales, District 80 Rep. Nathan Ballentine, District 71 Rep. Joan Brady , District 78 Rep. William F. "Bill" Cotty, District 79
Rep. James H. Harrison, District 75 Rep. Christopher Richard Hart, District 73 Rep. Leon Howard, District 76 Rep. Joseph H. Neal, District 70
Rep. J. Todd Rutherford, District 74 Rep. John L. Scott, Jr., District 77 Rep. James E. Smith, Jr., District 72 |
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(803) 734-2804 (803) 734-9441 (803) 734-2963 (803) 734-2997 |
Saluda County
Rep. Marion B. Frye, District 39 |
MBF@schouse.org |
(803) 734-3275 |
Spartanburg County
Rep. Michael A. Anthony, District 42 Rep. G. Ralph Davenport, Jr., District 37 Rep. R. Keith Kelly, District 35 Rep. Lanny F. Littlejohn, District 33
Rep. Joseph G. Mahaffey, District 36 Rep. Harold Mitchell, Jr., District 31 Rep. W. Douglas "Doug" Smith, District 32 Rep. Scott F. Talley, District 34
Rep. Robert E. "Bob" Walker, District 38 |
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(803) 734-3005 (803) 734-3053 |
Sumter County
Rep. Grady A. Brown, District 50 Rep. Phillip Dean Lowe, District 60 Rep. Joseph H. Neal, District 70 Rep. G. Murrell Smith. Jr., District 67
Rep. J. David Weeks, District 51 |
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(803) 734-2934 (803) 734-2975 (803) 734-2804 (803) 734-3042 (803) 734-3102 |
Union County
Rep. Michael A. Anthony, District 42 |
AnthonyM@schouse.org |
(803) 734-3060 |
Williamsburg County
Rep. Carl Anderson, District 103 Rep. Cathy B. Harvin, District 64 Rep. Kenneth Kennedy, District 101 |
AndersonC@schouse.org HarvinC@schouse.org KK@schouse.org |
(803) 734-2933 (803) 734-3135 (803) 734-2986 |
York County
Rep. F. Gregory "Greg" Delleney, Jr., District 43 Rep. Carl Lee Gullick, District 48 Rep. Herb Kirsh, District 47
Rep. Bessie Moody-Lawrence, District 49
Rep. Dennis Carroll Moss, District 29 Rep. J. Michael "Mick" Mulvaney, District 45 Rep. J. Gary Simrill, District 46 |
fgd@schouse.org GullickC@schouse.org NO EMAIL bam@schouse.org MossD@schouse.org MulvaneyM@schouse.org
JGS@schouse.org |
(803) 734-3074 (803) 734-3011 (803) 734-3071 (803) 734-3029 (803) 734-3073 (803) 734-2937 (803) 734-3040 |
*** GrassRoots Action Alert ***
H. 3212 NEEDS YOUR IMMEDIATE HELP!
17 March 2008
Your IMMEDIATE action is needed to save H. 3212 in the Senate! If you do not act first thing Tuesday morning, it will be too late!
Sen. Jake Knotts amended H. 3212 on Thursday. As amended it will be WORSE than current law. NRA is supporting this bill for unknown
reasons since the bill will not increase the number of states with which SC can have reciprocity. So, the politicians must hear the message "GrassRoots
GunRights speaks for me!"
GrassRoots apologizes for the last minute notice, but things are moving fast and research was needed to be sure our suspicions were correct about the H. 3212.
We will have a full explanation up on our web site by tomorrow morning.
Below is the text of the letter we are sending to each Senator.
The Honorable Glenn F. McConnell
South Carolina Senate
P.O. Box 142
Columbia, SC 29202
RE: H. 3212
Dear Senator McConnell:
The Knotts/Anderson amendment to H. 3212 - the concealed weapon permit (CWP) reciprocity bill - is so bad that South Carolina would
not qualify for reciprocity with itself! So, how could that possibly lead to reciprocity with more states as claimed by its supporters?
There are serious problems with the Knotts/Anderson amendment. An analysis of H. 3212 shows H. 3212 should REDUCE the number of states with
which SC has reciprocity, NOT increase the number. Also, H. 3212 is the first step in changing SC law to require re-qualification for CWP renewals.
A full explanation of all that is wrong with the Knotts/Anderson amendment can be found on the GrassRoots GunRights web site at www.SCFirearms.org.
In the interests of saving time and space, only the worst aspects of H. 3212 are being presented in this letter.
Existing SC CWP law makes a legal distinction between a fingerprint review and a background check. Section 23-31-215(B) states:
Upon submission of the items required by subsection (A) of this section, SLED must conduct or facilitate a local, state, and federal fingerprint
review of the applicant. SLED must also conduct a background check of the applicant through notification to and input from the sheriff of the county
where the applicant resides or if the applicant is a qualified nonresident, where the applicant owns real property in this State. … If the fingerprint review and
background check are favorable, SLED must issue the permit. [emphasis added]
As shown immediately above, existing SC CWP law requires "a local, state, and federal fingerprint review," but explicitly requires only a local background
check and by inference requires a state background check by SLED. SC CWP law fails to mention a federal background check as a requirement for
obtaining a SC CWP.
The Knotts/Anderson amendment would change existing SC CWP law to allow CWP reciprocity ONLY if "the reciprocal state requires an applicant to
successfully pass a state and federal criminal background check." The Knotts/Anderson amendment sets a higher standard for CWP reciprocity than
existing SC law does by explicitly requiring people from other states "to successfully pass a … federal criminal background check." SC CWP holders
are not explicitly required to pass a federal criminal background check, only a federal fingerprint review.
The only result that can come from this change is to REDUCE the number of states with which SC can have reciprocity. It is quite possible SC would
LOSE reciprocity with states with which SC currently has reciprocity due to the new standards imposed by the Knotts/Anderson amendment. If other
states follow SC and also do not require a federal background check prior to issuing a CWP, then SC could lose reciprocity with those states with
which SC currently has reciprocity. Ironically, SC would not qualify for reciprocity with itself under the new standards imposed by the Knotts/Anderson
amendment!
It is claimed the Knotts/Anderson amendment would allow for reciprocity with states that require less than the eight (8) hour training course currently
required by SC law in Section 23-31-210(5)(a). But, the words of the Knotts/Anderson amendment do not support such a claim or interpretation.
SC law does not provide for a different definition of "proof of training" for use by CWP holders in other states than it does for SC CWP holders. The
Knotts/Anderson amendment does not change the law as to how many hours a "firearm training and safety" course must be - which is statutorily
defined as eight (8) hours minimum for all. Thus, the Knotts/Anderson amendment could not possibly increase the number of states eligible for CWP
reciprocity with SC, and any statement to the contrary is not supported by the facts.
Existing SC law explicitly provides for reciprocity with "those states which have permit issuance standards equal to or greater than the standards" set
by SC law. The Knotts/Anderson amendment changes the SC CWP reciprocity law to allow reciprocity if "the reciprocal state requires an applicant
to successfully pass a state and federal criminal background check and a course in firearm training and safety." There is no longer a mention of SC
CWP standards when dealing with reciprocity.
The Knotts/Anderson amendment is not designed to increase the number of states with which SC can have CWP reciprocity. The ulterior motive
behind the Knotts/Anderson amendment is to lay the foundation for requiring CWP re-qualification every four years.
The unspoken reason for deleting reference to SC standards with regards to CWP reciprocity found in the Knotts/Anderson amendment is that such
a change provides the opportunity to require CWP re-qualification every four years. It is no secret that Sen. Knotts has wanted to impose CWP
re-qualification for years. But, doing so would have destroyed every existing CWP reciprocity agreement since no other state imposes such a
requirement. The mandated re-qualification would be a great monetary opportunity/reward for NRA certified instructors, which would easily explain
NRA support. But, re-qualification is not in the best interests of the people of SC generally or SC CWP holders in particular. It is not a change
supported by GrassRoots GunRights and its members.
The fear mongers claim they are only protecting the people of SC by insisting on CWP "training" prior to allowing people to carry a firearm pursuant
to the CWP law. But, there is no evidence to support the claim that CWP "training" saves any lives. Yet, there is reliable evidence proving mandated
CWP "training" actually costs lives when good people are deterred from obtaining a CWP due to the extra costs in time and money. Unfortunately,
the facts do not matter to those with a political agenda or a financial interest.
GrassRoots GunRights urges you to repeal the Knotts/Anderson amendment and pass H. 3212 exactly as it came from the Senate Judiciary
Committee. Otherwise, kill H. 3212 because the Knotts/Anderson amendment makes the SC CWP law worse than it is now.
Sincerely,
Robert D. Butler, J.D.
Vice President
GrassRoots GunRights
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*** ACTION STEPS: ***
- Call EACH Senator from your county first thing in the morning because the bill will be voted on Tuesday.
- Email EACH Senator from your county and send the message "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" (Cut and paste "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me!" in
both the subject line and the body of the text.)
- Be sure to say "GrassRoots GunRights speaks for me on CWP reciprocity."
Thank you for doing your part as a gun rights activist!
Bill Rentiers
Executive Officer
GrassRoots GunRights of SC
ExecOfficer@SCFirearms.org
803-233-9295
Abbeville County
Sen. John W. Drummond, District 10 Sen. William H. O'Dell, District 4 |
PTE@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6455 (803) 212-6040 |
Aiken County
Sen. W. Greg Ryberg, District 24 Sen. A. Shane Massey, District 25 Sen. Nikki G. Setzler, District 26 |
SLC@scsenate.org shanemassey@scsenate.org NGS@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6320 (803) 212-6000 (803) 212-6140 |
Allendale County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto, District 40 |
CBH@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 |
Anderson County
Sen. Kevin L. Bryant, District 3 Sen. William H. O'Dell, District 4 |
BRYANTK@scsenate.org WHO@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6024 (803) 212-6040 |
Bamberg County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto, District 40 Sen. John W. Matthews, Jr., District 39 |
CBH@scsenate.org JWM@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 (803) 212-6056 |
Barnwell County
Sen. C. Bradley Hutto , District 40 |
CBH@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6140 |
Beaufort County
Sen. Catherine C. Ceips, District 46 Sen. Clementa C. Pinckney, District 45 |
CEIPS@scsenate.org CCP@scsenate.org |
(803) 212-6032 (803) 212-6056 |
Berkeley County
Sen. Paul G. Campbell, Jr., District 44 Sen. George E. "Chip" Campsen III, District 43 Sen. Lawrence K. "Larry" Grooms, District 37 |
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